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Republicans were, though, more likely to believe Russian disinformation claims than their Democratic counterparts, with 57.6% falling for at least one Russian disinformation claim, compared with just 17.9% of Democrats and 29.5% of people who didn't identify with one particular party.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 155 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The headline should read "Republicans believe misinformation to an alarming degree"?

Sure the numbers aren't great for independents and Democrats... but it isn't >50% bad, which clearly points to Republican ideology as brain worms.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Exactly. That's why I highlighted that portion.

~60% vs ~20% is a staggering difference. This really shows the much bigger problem of how conservatives gain power. They use the large masses of unintelligent, manipulative gullible people to get votes, and enrich themselves.

This is not freedom. This is not democracy. It's psychopaths, controlling and keeping people stupid, so they can stay in power and wealth.

Our system is so fucked.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who has ever talked to a Republican knows this. Whenever you point out half the bullshit coming out of their mouth has been debunked, they just spout some bullshit about the MSM and source being "biased". Friend, reality is biased against your 🤡 ass.

[–] Tortl@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

Literally every time. I'm so sick of giving people (conservatives) the benefit of the doubt when they talk about something I haven't heard of and realize that yes, in fact, this current issue they're crying about is also made up or wildly misinterpreted just like every other issue they've ever pretended to care about.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The funny thing is the electoral college was created to protect us from this, but it's kinda the whole reason we're where we are.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Uh, no. The electoral college was created because the slavers wanted representation for their slaves without giving them the vote.

Edit: Source

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No. The electoral college was created because the founders didn't trust the uneducated general population to not elect a tyrant, so the EC was supposed to be made up of educated people who wouldn't be stupid enough to vote against the best interests of the people.

It also had a bit to do with how long it took to count votes at the time.

Are you sure you're not thinking about the 3/5 compromise?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See the source I posted in the edit.

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

That article says it was created to prevent a populist president, and that it should've been scrapped after the 12th amendment but the 3/5 compromise incentivized the South to keep it.

The Federalist Papers talk about this a bit and slavery was not a concern.

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree the electoral college is part of the problem, but we’ll all benefit from ditching plurality voting and replacing with ranked choice voting or even star voting.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

I was in favor of ranked choice voting until Trump came out against it. Now I'm even more in favor of it.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

Yes, this level of control over how the populace thinks is a step along the path toward turning human beings into livestock. I'm not fond of it.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Republicans live in a world of lies in their Fox News + Church bubble.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago
  • newsmax, oan, brebart and any of the right wing grifters like POOLE, shapiro, owens, ROEGAN, j peterson.

the last 2 having the most significant impact on men.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I do think that is giving liberals and the left too much credit.

A lot of the infighting from among the left during the past election felt pretty artificial, to be perfectly honest, and most of the "Genocide Joe/Holocaust Harris" types seemed to just evaporate after the election ended. Maybe just because there was nothing really left to say after all was said and done, but I just find it hard to believe much of that discourse was in good faith. I'm surprised to read a number as low as 18%, but almost 1 in 5 still isn't nothing.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That and all the bad faith arguments about "the Republicans did something terrible; this is all the Democrats' fault".

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Sorta, but not to let the Democrats off the hook either, with their uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Chuck Schumer and his conspirators can never be forgiven for agreeing to pass the Trump budget that is now funding his agenda.

Schumer's entire argument that they should play along until Trump's approval rating hits some arbitrarily low number is infuriating, and reeks of the sort of calculated politicking where the only priority is to do whatever it takes to stay in power, rather than to do the right thing. Hope that bites him and the others who voted with him in the ass.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure, but the vast, vast majority of the blame should be on the Republicans and their supporters. There were also a ton of people who kept acting like the Republicans didn't control the House during 2023-2024.

[–] aow@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago

I agree that Schumer's political approach and public rationale is awful, but not voting for the budget would've given the Trump admin free reign to do worse on top of blaming the Democrats for it and convincing their supporters. A government shutdown would've given the executive branch more power to manipulate funding, including to things they can't touch without legal challenges otherwise. I'd rather people be able to go after them in the courts, even if they're doing awful stuff that takes longer to reverse.

This is why those senators broke with the party, because a no vote would've been performative and made the situation worse. The yes votes are mostly in states where deprogrammable independents are a meaningful part of the electorate for 2026.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

it was artificial, early on in the gaza genocide, the protests were taced right back to putin, it was so blatant that a "muslim, claimed they arnt supporting biden anymore", the only influence muslim has was in michigan, and not the whole voting population.

and then it came out some of the protest were also funded by the likes of seinfelds WIFE.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

*disinformation.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

it also falls in line with republicans falling for scams and crypto. i once followed a bunch of asian tubers that had a veneer of progressivism, but turned heel after a mysogynistic event, last i heard they are all drinking the trump kooaild, and one thing was common a right winger form the south was peddling crypto on the channel and they lost money on it when it crashed.

later on they tried to gaslight thier fans into believe california was messing with thier business accounts/employees. turns out people were calling them out for misclassfiying thier employees, salaried over contractors. they were asking how to "evade the laws"

No, because many Americans who are not republicans still believe this.