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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't you see that false quotes undermine your position?

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

But it isn't false. They are literal nazis and say literal nazi things.

Several offices for the protection of the constitution of the German LΓ€nder (they are a kind of anti-extremist intelligence services, in case you don't know) have found them to be "assuredly right-wing-extremists", which is the worst possible classification the law recognises.

Again. Literal, actual, nazis.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. That's why you should quote what they literally say. It's not a quote if you write what you think they say.

[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"Sieg Heil" is definitly a real AfD quote, Marcel Grauf said that in a private chat that was evidence in a court case.

Not sure what the exact quote for "gas the jews!" is as they probably said it in German, but it's very likley someone in the AfD said something that would translate to that on record.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thanks, I would have looked differently at your comment if you had directly added that source.

it’s very likley

Then it is still not a quote.

In general, if somebody can proof something easily but does not, then I assume that it is wrong. If others think like me, you create the opposite message of what you want.

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm not the original commenter.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No worries. I kind of agree with you both.

The AfD are not "literal Nazis" because they are not the NSDAP, which doesn't exist anymore. But they are as close as you can get and a spiritual successor. But the proper term is neo-nazies. And yeah you shouldn't make up quotes, when there are so many real ones you can pick from.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hope that this exchange has convinced you that the AfD are nazis.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

I am sorry to tell you but if I didn't know better, this exchange would have made me question the critics of the AfD and start seeing the AfD as the choice of reason.

You say there are lies but you just offer a strawman argument in the form of a sack of potatoes. If you don't back up these claims I usually conclude that they are wrong.

You don't have to convince me that the AfD is ineligible. I am with you. But you can't claim that the AfD makes up causes and you make up your own. That makes all your claims unbelievable.