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I'd be more likely to listen if this weren't next to an AI Gen otter
Another sepia toned AI comic.
Yea I haven't even read the message, the second I saw the text wobble I came to the comments to see who else has already called it out.
"Critique to build, not tear down"
Quoting the person who is being critiqued isn't effective rhetoric... The whole point is that he isn't convincing because he's unable to not be a hypocrite for half a second. Pointing to his hypocrisy uncritically again doesn't do anything to excuse the issue. If you actually want to convince anyone to follow the advice above, you need to do more than exist vaguely nearby. So do better, because this was a pathetic attempt and should never be repeated.
How's that? Build you up enough?
Nothing you said is even vaguely related to what has been said in this thread. Where do you think you are right now?
I'm sorry you can't read, but it definitely has been said to you, multiple times. I'm just not babying you about it.
Let me check the comment chain again:
-comment whining about AI
-comment whining about AI
-your deranged rant that is unrelated to anything that has been said before
Nope. Don't know where you think you are or who you think you're talking to but you seem to be lost.
Lol. Do you call everything you can't read deranged? Because the hungry hungry caterpillar also makes sense to the literate among us.
I'm talking to cilethesane about how they're uncritically quoting nonsense without adding anything to the discussion as though it furthers any point and I'm in this thread. You know where you are too, but you definitely are lost my dude
No, I call the crazy man screaming nonsense responding to a conversation that isn't happening deranged.
For example, how lost would someone have to be to be communicating with someone through text and think calling then illiterate makes any sense?
What exactly have you added to the discussion? "I've done nothing but scram nonsense and try to hurl abuse, how DARE you not engage with me like this a reasonable discussion!"
Oh we're adding misgendering to your insults. Cute.
I've added telling off an asshole to the discussion. You've still added nothing. Attempting to stop you is my contribution numbnuts. Try to keep up. I started out civil. You've been a fart sniffing self-righteous asshole with no point the whole time
This doesn't need to be a whole thing. Next time you want to make an argument, come up with one before you open your mouth and you won't have this issue which is clearly eating at you
Adding more faux outrage, cute.
You haven't been civil a single time. You call this civil:
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You come in with an attitude of "I'm telling off an asshole to the discussion." and you're going to clutch your pearls when I don't treat you like someone worthy of intellectual discourse? You came in like an asshole, you got responded to like an asshole. If you don't like it don't start with it.
"I don't understand, I keep trying to verbally abuse you into not responding to me so I can pretend I won an argument and you're not going away and letting me pretend I owned you so hard!!!"
Nope. No faux outrage. You could have checked and you chose not to. My instance is right there in my name as a clue. You made a choice.
Yes that is perfectly civil. You did something that should make you ashamed. It's not my job to pretend otherwise. I didn't call names, I didn't insult you. I told you that an action you took was socially unacceptable. That is civility. Just because I didn't fellate you doesn't mean I've wronged you. Don't want your efforts to be called pathetic? Don't do pathetic things.
"I don't understand why I'm living in your head rent free. This genuinely started as a critique of awful behavior. I've no idea why you can't take even the lightest criticism"
I am telling off an asshole. I didn't know that at the time of my first comment, but I certainly do now. You're not perfect, you deserve criticism and when you say something egregiously stupid like you did above, that criticism should be harsh. I don't want you to engage with me. I need you to grow a spine
Interacting with you makes me sick. Trust me, I'm not still talking to you for me
Are you okay? This amount of time and anger spent interacting with someone who "makes you sick" because they dared to post
Is not normal. Seek help.
Nope. My app doesn't show your instance. Is blahaj.zone an instance for women only or something? A clue in your name also means nothing, that would also be "assuming gender". You can declare your pronouns in your name if that is a concern for you. No one is is checking your profile before replying to you, especially if you're being an asshole to them. Did you click my profile before responding to me?
I should be ashamed of the phrase "Critique to build, not tear down”? Again, you might want to do some self analysis on why that would offend you.
Hey, same here! I didn't call names, I didn't insult you, I pointed out that your rant about hypocrisy had nothing to do about anything that had been said up to that point. That is civility. Just because I didn’t fellate you doesn’t mean I’ve wronged you.
Sure, you can attribute that to me. Remarkable amount of self awareness to say I am living rent free in your head, (again, you might want to look into that).
Oh now I am curious. Please quote the exact sentence where you determined I was an asshole. Let's see who was an asshole first. I'll start: It's when you got offended at the statement “Critique to build, not tear down” and went off on a paragraph long rant about it.
Never claimed otherwise. This goes both ways.
Wouldn't me not engaging with a bully be spineless? This is as non-nonsensical as claiming someone you're communicating with through text is illiterate. You have a very shallow pool of insults and you are throwing all of them at me trying to make me go away, and it just doesn't seem to be working. That's because I have a policy of "Being an asshole to me doesn't mean I give up. We just stop having the conversation you want".
Oh do tell, who are you still talking to me for?
Is it for me? Do you care about me that much? Because I promise you have successfully been enough of an asshole that you will be unable to convince me of anything other than that fact.
Is it for the nobody reading this comment chain? Again, your first reply in this chain was nonsense enough that I promise you nobody is reading any further.
Is it for your therapist? Because you might want to talk to them about this. They'll recommend some better coping mechanisms for you.
yeah, it just cheapens the message heavily
"Perfection is the enemy of progress"
"Division is a weapon used by elites"
uses currently divisive technology popularly known to be made by elites
I hope this unnecessary choice doesn't cheapen my message or bother people I'm trying to meet where they are.
This is fucking "genocide Joe" all over again, just much more stupid because literally no one has been harmed by the creation and posting of this image.
Has OP stolen a job from some other artist by posting their meme? Maybe they should have commissioned it?
I get it, trying the force AI into everything as an excuse to not hire people is dumb as fuck, but this post is not doing that. People using it to make shit posts and memes is fine.
Why do you ignore the steps required to get here? The model doesn't exist in a vacuum, nor did it automagically will itself into existence.
By the creation and posting, no one has been harmed, but the model's development sits atop the stolen works of artists worldwide. Now these companies are trying to obviate artists. Harm was a prerequisite for this image's creation.
You're just ignoring the steps required to get to this "harmless" phase. It's like saying "ffs, why do you want people to stop buying Nestlé where possible? Is wanting cookies evil now?"
Genuinely, why does none of this matter to you?
I'm not mad that AI exists, nor that people want to use it—so do I. But I can't just ignore how they were made, or what the normalization of GenAI usage legitimizes.
Please don't make comparisons to genocide joe. This isn't the same (I can go into this if needed, but I hope you see why), and I'm not even from the US.
Did OP build and train the models? This makes as much sense as blaming OP for using the Internet to spread their message, because the "steps required" to get to the Internet include massive contributions to global warming, abusing and stealing the labour of the working class, and the genocide of indigenous populations. Why does none of this matter to you?
If OP is paying for access to the AI generation then they should not do that and provide them with profit. There are plenty of methods to get it for free so there is no reason to assume OP paid for it.
Of course it isn't. Israel's genocide is a real issue that people actively made worse because having Palestinians die is easier than making the mental effort of thinking through the consequences of their actions (or inaction), and considering that sometimes all you can do is prevent something from getting worse.
This is just people refusing to engage with helpful messaging intended to help organize group solidarity because of a knee-jerk reaction, instead of considering if this image actually contributed to the harm AI causes in any way.
Both are people being intellectually lazy and pretending they are morally superior.