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Technically, all the colors are fake. They're just the halucinations of a brain trying to understand the input from sensory organs.
That doesn't make them fake, in the same way that x can mean 2. You are merely representing a given value in a useful way.
But is my red the same as your red? Hmmm?
if two people can both point to red and agree that it's red, that's close enough. anything beyond that is just pointless esoteric debate.
Some people see numbers instead/along with colors, and different people see different numbers, so I guess the colors might be different between people too
It was a joke?
hahaha?
I disagree that it's pointless. I think it may be beneficial to humanity (eventually) to establish whether or not there is an objective reality which we all experience.
i agree, but that's a job for neuroscience, quantum mechanics, and psychology; not a pack of dorks on the fediverse.
it's more in the philosophy ballpark, which shapes the interpretration of methodology and the consequences, in my humble opinion.
But I want to contribute to humanity in a meaningful way!
-me, a dork on the Fediverse nearly incapable of contributing to humanity in a meaninful way
buy guns
Working on it.
But what if the dorks on the fediverse are scientists?
then by all means
There is no way to "establish whether or not there is an objective reality." It's a philosophical position. You either take the reality which we observe and study as part of the material sciences to be objective reality, or you don't believe it's objective reality and think it is all sort of invented in the "mind" somehow. Either position you take, you cannot prove or disprove either one, because even if you take the latter position, no evidence I present to you could change your mind because to be presented evidence would only mean for that evidence to appear in the mind, and thus wouldn't prove anything. The best argument we can make is just taking the reality we observe as indeed reality is just philosophically simpler, but that also requires you to philosophically value simplicity, which you cannot prove what philosophical principles we should value with science either.
I hadn't thought about it that way.
No, colors are real. And you see them.
Pink isn't real. There is no wavelength of light that is pink.
Its bright red, maybe toward purple! Brown is dark orange.
This person colors
Light frequencies between blue and red don't exist.
Clearly, it's light-ish red.
Pink is real, or you couldn't see it. And you couldn't see it unless light was bringing it to your eyes.
For pink light to be perceived, it needs red cones to fully react, and both green and blue cones to only partially activate.
https://gizmodo.com/if-the-color-pink-doesnt-scientifically-exist-why-can-1464266788
The definition of color from Merriam/Webster.
a : a phenomenon of light (such as red, brown, pink, or gray) or visual perception that enables one to differentiate otherwise identical objects b (1) : the aspect of the appearance of objects and light sources that may be described in terms of hue, lightness, and saturation (see SATURATION sense 4) for objects and hue, brightness, and saturation for light sources
Wavelength of green light = 550nm
Wavelength of pink light = N/A
I guess we disagree.
I stand with Merriam/Websters definition of color. You are using a different definition.