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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Even people hallucinate. Under your definition intelligence doesn't exist

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

Wow whoosh. The point is that "AI" isn't actually "intelligent" like a human and thus can't "hallucinate" like an intelligent human.

All of this anthropomorphic terminology is just misleading marketing bullshit.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Who said anything about human intelligence? AIs have a different kind of intelligence, an artificial kind. I'm tired of pretending they don't

Ever heard of the Turing test? Ever since AIs could pass it it became not a thing. Before that, playing Go was the mark of AI.

Any time an AI achieves a new thing people move goalposts. So I ask you: what does AI need to achieve to have intelligence?

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The same thing actually passing a turing test would require. You've obviously read the words "Turing test" somewhere and thought you understood what it meant, but no robot we've ever produced as a species has passed the turing test. It EXPLICITLY requires that intelligence equal to (or indistinguishable from) HUMAN intelligence is shown. Without a liar reading responses, no AI we'll produce for decades will pass the turing test.

No large language model has intelligence. They're just complicated call and response mechanisms that guess what answer we want based on a weighted response system (we tell it directly or tell another machine how to help it "weigh" words in a response). Obviously with anything that requires massive amounts of input or nuance, like language, it'll only be right about what it was guided on, which is limited to areas it is trained in.

We don't have any novel interactions with AI. They are regurgitation engines, bringing forward sentences that aren't theirs piecemeal. Given ten messages, I'm confident no major LLM would pass a Turing test.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The Turing test is flawed, because while it is supposed to test for intelligence it really just tests for a convincing fake. Depending on how you set it up I wouldn't be surprised if a modern LLM could pass it, at least some of the time. That doesn't mean they are intelligent, they aren't, but I don't think the Turing test is good justification.

For me the only justification you need is that they predict one word (or even letter!) at a time. ChatGPT doesn't plan a whole sentence out in advance, it works token by token... The input to each prediction is just everything so far, up to the last word. When it starts writing "As..." it has no concept of the fact that it's going to write "...an AI A language model" until it gets through those words.

Frankly, given that fact it's amazing that LLMs can be as powerful as they are. They don't check anything, think about their answer, or even consider how to phrase a sentence. Everything they do comes from predicting the next token... An incredible piece of technology, despite it's obvious flaws.

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