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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/59867996

German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Redo the calculations with the USA fighting on Russia's side, and things start to look different.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't have enough pull yet to make that happen, and it's unlikely he will anytime soon. He could manage to get the US to sit out the fight, but actively committing US forces to help Russia isn't going to happen.

[–] nekbardrun@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What about Putin and Trump working together the rhetoric of nuclear deterrence?

IIRC, Russia+USA = 90% of all nuclear weapons in the world.

A big whammy hammer if they (hypothetically) fight together.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Possible but it would be an incredibly risky move on Trump's part as nukes are a very touchy subject and frankly Trump doesn't have either the brains nor the charisma to pull it off. He's as likely to make things worse and unite the rest of the world against Russia (including China who won't want to see nukes deployed in essentially their backyard) as he is to help in a meaningful fashion. Putin knows how limited a tool Trump is and wouldn't want to risk that. Trump is essentially useless for international purposes and limited to only domestic affairs.

Despite his claims he is not and never has been a negotiator, he only ever "wins" when his opponents are at an overwhelming disadvantage. It's why he prefers working with companies on the verge of bankruptcy because they're desperate and easier to push around.

As for deploying nuclear weapons, not only would that unit the entire world against the US, it would ignite the biggest shit storm within the US in its entire history, assuming the military even went along with it in the first place. If anything was going to convince the US military to stage a coup against Trump, giving the order to nuke a recent ally in a war the US is only tangentially connected to would.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Trump seems to be consolidating to focus on Iran (and it's allies) and China. He's not going to fight Europe. If anything, he'll try to get them to help by threatening NATO membership or something.