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Summary

Jon Stewart mocked Donald Trump’s reaction to the war plan leak, accusing him of exhibiting "quick onset dementia" whenever faced with accountability.

Stewart noted Trump’s aloof response to the security breach, where classified war plans were leaked via a Signal group chat mistakenly including a journalist.

Stewart criticized Trump’s repeated denial pattern, comparing it to previous instances where Trump distanced himself from controversial actions.

He also condemned the "crazy arrogance" of officials involved in the chat, calling the situation a major national security blunder.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At the time of that video, over a month ago, trump just got in office. He was doing really awful things legally. Just like he legally cheated. Stewart was saying, tell the people what he really is doing that's illegal, fascist sounding but legal, actually fascist, etc., not call everything fascist because then it gets lost in the noise.

I wonder if you actually watched it. Stewart was saying that to save the stuff that is actually fascist for the stuff that trump does that's authoritarian because of this, the "firehose":

“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”

The goal is to keep opinions we don't want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can,...

https://archive.is/PoUMo

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Give him a chance" was a questionable take in 2016. It's downright stupid in 2025. And being pedantic about what people are allowed to call fascist is just aiding and abetting them. Anything a fascist does is fascist. That's all there is to it. While people like you and Jon nitpick over what the meaning really is, they've already torn apart the government and are rounding people up.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

At no point did he say, "Give him a chance." He said, call what he actually does as legal, legal, that's authoritarian as authoritarian and call what he does fascist, fascist. Is Stewart perfect in his takes? Probably not, but he's the best we've got.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

At no point did he say, “Give him a chance.”

You did.

At the time of that video, over a month ago, trump just got in office.

Second, defining fascism as only illegal acts is outlandishly out of touch. As if any fascist government doesn't make the legal system work in their favor.

And if Stewart is the best you've got, the situation's royally fucked. Get better people to look up to, for real. Anyone tiptoeing around calling out full-throated fascism for what it is isn't who you want telling you what's going on.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

And if Stewart is the best you’ve got, the situation’s royally fucked

What country are you from?

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Dave Chappelle did say to give Trump a chance after the 2016 election, that may be where some of the confusion is coming from.

https://youtu.be/XQw0bC9560g

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Problem is calling trump a fascist just after winning a Democrat election is stupid. The people literally voted for this.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What makes you think only non-fascists can win elections?