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China launched its most extensive war games around Taiwan on Monday to showcase Beijing's ability to cut off the island from outside support in a conflict, testing Taipei's resolve to defend itself and its arsenal of U.S.-made weapons.

The Eastern Theatre Command said it had deployed troops, warships, fighter jets and artillery for its "Justice Mission 2025" exercises to encircle the democratically governed island, conduct live fire and simulated strikes on land and sea targets, and drills to blockade Taiwan's main ports.

The live-firing exercises will continue on Tuesday across a record seven zones designated by China's Maritime Safety Administration, making the drills the largest to date by total coverage and in areas closer to Taiwan than previous exercises. The military had initially said artillery firing would be confined to five zones.

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[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You named countries where wildly varying forms of US military action were taken for different reasons, most of those being justified and legally backed, none for purposes along the lines of annexation/subjugation. You think China's bullying of Taiwan (seeking annexation), Philippines...doesn't constitute imperialism because they haven't pulled the trigger yet? Uyghurotta be kidding me

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"The USA invasion of Iraq was justified" is not a take I thought I'd be seeing on Lemmy tbh. I will now disengage, won't get anything from someone who thinks that the hundreds of thousands of murdered in Iraq were justified.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Notice how I said "most were justified", meaning not all of them were, and you went and cherry picked Iraq? Which is obviously the one I'd place in the unjustified group. That's called being a bad faith clown or illiterate.

The difference is a republitard administration + 9/11 created the insane environment for stupid decisions to be made with support. What's China's/Russia's excuse?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, now answer to my original point: tell me ONE military action carried out by China in the last 30 years that remotely compares to the invasion of Iraq

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Name one event in China in the last 30 years that remotely compares to 9/11.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

9/11 is linked to Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda though? And very likely to Saudi Arabia. What's the Iraqi involvement in 9/11?

Regardless: China also has a history of ISIS-linked terrorist attacks that have killed almost a thousand nationals over the past few decades.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't understand how Iraq never would've happened without 9/11 then I don't think you're in a position to call anyone uninformed.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Again, you're justifying the invasion of Iraq.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, I literally described 9/11 as creating the insane political environment that would allow for stupid decisions like that to fly. Let me know when you stop being an obtuse ml clown.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 2 hours ago

Whoopsie, what a stupid decision 9/11, just a misshap and a slip that violently murdered a few hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians and millions more through destruction of the state and infrastructure!