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President Donald Trump struggled to offer much sympathy for the families of about 100 Americans—many of them U.S. military veterans—who have died fighting in Ukraine. An estimated several thousand Americans have volunteered to fight for Ukraine since Russian dictator Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion in 2022, with at least 92 Americans killed as of September, The New York Times reported.

Following a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at Mar-a-Lago on Sunday to discuss a peace deal to end the war, Trump was asked about his message to the families of the fallen Americans. “The message is so obvious,” he replied. “What a shame. They died in a foreign country. And some are celebrated people, they’re very celebrated. But it’s so sad that a thing like that would happen.”

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

please learn to comprehend - i did not ask for examples i asked for why they are allowed.

I didn't give you a single example to answer all of your questions. You don't even know enough to form the right questions yet. That's why I told you to pick up a history book.

yes you have lots of heroes and good guys and volunteering when needed is indeed important.

Thats not the takeaway from the example I gave. Its that war is murky. Geopolitics is a constant moving narrative. Its that principle can be more important than civil statute. Its that a nation of immigrants doesn't immediately divorce itself from its prior ethnic affiliations.

i do not trust the US to not pull the rug out from these guys.

That is indeed a possible risk. You're going to be shocked to learn about American citizens that fought for Germany in WWI, and were welcomed back to American with no hard feelings.

so … how is this legal and allowed

"allowed"? Which unit of the US government do you see chasing US citizens into a warzone to stop them?

and what happens when the US turns its back on ukraine?

Again, history book. There is no one answer. History has examples of it going both ways and no consistent answer as to what the future holds.

So again, pick up a history book and look at how prior examples of this play out for not only US citizens, but also other citizens in other nations that we in the USA drew our legal inspiration from.

Along with the reading of history, if you could check your arrogance at the door, that would be appreciated too. Starting from a place Ignorance is no crime as long as you're looking to learn. It is possible to engage in conversations without being an asshole.