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We probably agree on abortion and the second amendment, but you think we don’t cause your people tell you we believe some crazy shit.
We don’t want abortions at 8 months for no good reason and we don’t (for the most part) want guns made illegal for everybody.
Nobody wants abortions for no good reason. The key is that it's a decision that should be left to the doctor and the patient. Every person has their own threshold for what constitutes a "good" reason, and my beliefs on the matter aren't more valid than anyone else's. Why should I make medical decisions for any person? Why would anyone expect personal morals to be the standard by which everyone must live?
If you want to have an a portion for fun at 6 weeks, have at it. If you want that at 8 months, you’re not going to find many people agreeing with you.
Republicans says that’s what Dems want. It’s not.
At 8 months you have all your baby stuff and a name picked out. If a tiny fraction of a percent of abortions are "for fun" at 8 months it is not a reason to prevent abortions for all
It really baffles me that people actually think abortions are happening at 8 or 9 months pregnant without a medical reason. If a woman wants an abortion, she's going to get it as early as possible. Nobody is carrying a baby for that long and suddenly changing their minds.
It baffles me more that a non-zero number of them believe post-term abortion is a thing.
These are not smart people.
Apparently it is for Trump, so maybe it's just a Republican thing and they're projecting.
You mean, killing the new born by throwing it over the cliff, Sparta-style ?
Right into Lake Michigan
This is the shit I keep trying to tell people. i have a whole huge story about my family's experience with needing abortion. There's literally no real live anti-abortion human I have ever talked to that has heard our story and said "Yeah, you still shouldn't have been able to do it. If your twins died because you couldn't abort that triplet that had basically no brain left from a massive stroke you only discovered at 20 weeks then that was God's Will." Every single one of them thinks that our situation was one of the "permissible" ones, but that there's still this massive problem of floozies using it as birth control and people aborting 8 month fetuses that needs to be controlled.
I keep having to tell them that A) nobody gets 8 months into a pregnancy and just flippantly decides they don't want it anymore, something catastrophic has happened, and B) there's no way you can ban it for those so-called "irresponsible women" without also de facto banning it for people like us. Because that hypothetical party girl you're imagining getting her 10th abortion this year? Waiting a week for the Morality Panel to check if she eligible is a minor inconvenience, but it would have killed my twins.
My grandmother is against abortion. But when I told her a friend of my sister was having one because the baby had a rare condition where they weren't going to live anyway, she seemed fine with it in that situation
Yeah, they're never actually against abortion. Most of them are usually totally okay with situations like the baby is going to suffer needlessly and die at most a couple hours after being born, or the Mom will literally die carrying this baby to term, or any number of the times abortion is not just an option, but the best course of treatment to save a life.
They've just got it in their heads that 99% of them are "loose" women who "can't keep their legs closed" and are using abortion to "avoid the consequences of their actions" and don't understand that there's literally no way to ban it for them, without also creating a de facto ban for time sensitive medical situations like my wife's or that friend of your sister.
Also, there are literally birth control pills that are common and ubiquitous. There are IUDs. If they really want a medical procedure, you can have your tubes tied.
There is a pill you can take the day after.
Even if it is a "floozy", what the fuck makes you think abortion is the birth control of choice? Who do they think is out there wanting to have as many abortions as possible?
It's just so incredibly dumb.
Some Christians are against birth control too. They think sex should solely be for procreation, which is also one of their arguments against homosexuality
There's a propaganda film where a woman at an abortion clinic meets God and he talks her out of it. There is a background character in the film who is implied to be a regular at the abortion clinic and treats abortion like something she just does every month like getting a haircut. Conservatives think there are really a lot of people like that
But I think we’re all saying the same thing. Nobody wants abortions at 8 months for fun. They’re saying we actually want them to occur.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnqU-1uDUU
/s because the internet can't handle satire
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I'm not for any regulation on abortion. It should be a medical decision.
There literally should not be. Considering how time sensitive the most serious cases where it's needed can be? It should be up to a woman and her doctor, period. End of story. If someone thinks they are misusing that care, sue for malpractice.
But like my wife alone has had her life saved by abortion so many times. She's had an ectopic that would have ruptured and killed her, a miscarriage that wouldn't pass that she almost died of sepsis from, and there was the selective termination of one of our triplets because the seizures she was having were killing the other two babies and my wife's health was drastically declining waiting for the termination so she very likely might not have survived delivering them if we hadn't terminated the one.
Any one of those procedures even a few days of delay while some "Morality Panel" decides if you're situation is one of the "permitted ones" is going to kill people, many of whom being babies like my twins they claim to want to protect.
I personally want to get rid of all guns but I know it's infeasable
Cops and republicans first, then I'll consider it
Most countries have special units with guns. The average police officer does not carry. The general populace is only allowed hunting guns and only near hunting grounds or at home. This should be a standard here. It even fits the whole "Castle doctrine" so many swear by.
They're non perishable goods and there are hundreds of thousands already out there. Many were never tracked. I have possession of one that was built from before computers and was definitely never tracked. I'm not some gun nut either, it just ended up in my hands after being passed down multiple generations.
and yet many major developed countries did it within our lifetimes.
Did and of them have as many guns per capita as the US and have an almost perverted obsession with guns and individual freedoms like the US?
Who cares
Id guess people that participate in reality
Yeah, asbestos used to be everywhere too, same with lead paint, they still rightly regulated them. That shits way harder to get rid of than hand-held objects, there are still old buildings with lead paint on them and asbestos in them all over the country. But that doesn't mean regulating them didn't work or shouldn't have been done. Countless, needless, horrible deaths have been avoided by those regulations.
At least people who use guns for recreation have some kind of argument, this whole "it'd be too hard" bullshit is just lazy and pathetic.
Probably not? Mike Pence type voters really, truly believe in the “at conception” part, with exceptions being extremely rare.
I have… at least 25 cousins born to parents who do not believe in contraception nor abortion, of different denominations.
There are a lot of these folks. Based on my IRL experiences, this is not a niche opinion, though it may be shrinking with church attendance.
The “arm the schools” gun control types do feel more like a perpetually online, algorithm boosted niche. Rather hardcore Obama-hating hunters I’ve known are not into automatic weapons, nor the more ridiculous ideas. They are very into, to paraphrase, “being responsible for your goddamn firearm”. Like you said, what they fear is warped by Fox News (and TBH true quips from some of the more extreme Democrats).
I think 90% of Dems agree with 90% of Reps.
They think that Dems are Leftists. US Dems are very much on the right. Go far enough left, and you'll find the Marxists and Anarchists with more guns than a MAGAcultist's safe. Only they know how to shoot every one of them, and are smart enough to be quiet about it.