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Canada’s Quiet Coup: U of T Snags Yale Professors as We Start Raiding America’s Brain Trust (deanblundell.substack.com)

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Anecdotally almost all the people who went to the states after graduating my compsci degree (about 40% of my cohort) have come back now. One guy in my cohort died in a firefight with ICE, it just isn't safe.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

One guy in my cohort died in a firefight with ICE

what

[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I need to hear this whole story.

[+] saigot@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

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[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

woah

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Wasn't this guy one of those "zizian" nutjobs?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/german-math-genius-get-drawn-cult-accused-coast-coast-killings-rcna189309

Ziz believes there are two kinds of core, "good" and "nongood". "Nongood" cores are the most common (about 95% of the population). A "nongood" core is one that only grants full agency when dealing with issues of self survival or protecting offspring. This is enforced by a filter that only unlocks full agency when it detects those objects in a situation. Sometimes this filter breaks, producing a "good" core. Because people have two cores, there are three basic alignments: "nongood", "single good", and "double good". "Single good" is about 5% of the population, having one broken core which allows limited altruistic agency. Ziz seems to believe the probability of cores breaking is independent. That means the "double good" alignment only occurs in one fourth of one percent of people. This is important because double goods are the only people who can have full altruistic agency in Ziz's worldview. In this model "core" cannot be changed and you're stuck with the morality you have. This is important to consider in later sections where we talk about what Ziz tells people about their cores.

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[–] kiwii4k@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

your friend overstayed his h1b then fired on border agents?

what the fuck do you "geniuses" expect to happen there? fuck this thinking, you can't excuse that level of incompetence

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There are good reasons anyone would mistrust self identified ICE agents: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-03-20/ice-impersonators-scams-target-immigrants-tips-to-protect-yourself

Fuck ICE

[–] kiwii4k@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i'm not saying that there isn't, i'm saying anyone with intelligence will tell you don't fire a gun (especially at anyone claiming to work for the government) in a country you aren't a citizen of

and don't cry foul when consequences come knocking. you should 10,000% comply to ICE if you know you are in the wrong. if you aren't, then fuck with them all day long. otherwise you are asking to be deported or worse.

it's not black and white like everyone loves to claim these days. as soon as a gun was involved from the immigrant, like duh why am I even explaining this

[–] kiwii4k@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

i’m not saying that there isn’t, i’m saying anyone with intelligence will tell you don’t fire a gun (especially at anyone claiming to work for the government) in a country you aren’t a citizen of

and don’t cry foul when consequences come knocking. you should 10,000% comply to ICE if you know you are in the wrong. if you aren’t, then fuck with them all day long. otherwise you are asking to be deported or worse.

it’s not black and white like everyone loves to claim these days. a

also yeah, fuck ICE, but fuck them smartly. otherwise you are validating their actions and continuing the struggle.

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A friend of mine at Tufts was telling me about their ML/comp sco programs falling apart. She's doing her PhD and was handed a project previously led by a green card holder who fucked off (because yeah why would you stay in a place that clearly doesn't want you??). Now she's left managing expectations for a project she didn't write the codebase for.

And that was BEFORE the recent disappearing of a Tufts student earlier this week.

I'm a productive SWE at a big tech firm and I'm looking pretty seriously at offices in Canada. Better than hoping I don't get abducted because my voter registration has (D) on it.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m a productive SWE at a big tech firm and I’m looking pretty seriously at offices in Canada.

Come. We need more progressives in technology. You might feel the pay cut but it's so worth imo

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago

Good to hear, I've honestly been wondering how US folks would be received moving to Canada.

Various estimates do put me at nearly a 50% pay cut. Which, if the CoL doesn't scale down at least a little bit, could actually put me in a bit of a bind when supporting my wife as well.

That's if I could actually convince her to consider it, though.