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Trump watched as girl’s newborn was murdered & dumped in lake, Epstein document says
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I hate that this particular story is being picked up. it's a single report to the FBI from someone decades after it allegedly happened. Literally the best possible example of hearsay
The Epstein docs have so much far more damning evidence that is verifiable. Focusing on what amounts to a single phone call to the FBI - something I could do myself tomorrow - makes us look like bafoons
Hearsay is when someone says they heard that x happened, but didn’t see it personally. This is eyewitness testimony, as in the person making the allegation says they saw it happen. For it to be hearsay she would have needed to disclose it to another person who then disclosed it to the FBI.
This is a second hand report of the first person's claim. The document itself is hearsay. Her testimony would be admissable. A recording would be admissable. A typewritten document from who the fuck knows when is not.
The fact it’s not a recording doesn’t make it not firsthand testimony, and neither does its age (which is from 2020 btw, you can see it yourself at the top of the document).
Firsthand testimony isn’t inherently true, but that doesn’t make it not firsthand testimony.
It sure as shit isn’t hearsay as was being asserted.
but it's not first-hand testimony. it's a typewritten document by an FBI agent. that is literally not first-hand testimony. in order to be first-hand testimony it needs to be given in a courtroom or recorded. we don't even know if the person who made the phone call is who they claim to be.
I agree with your top comment. There is a lot of very verifiable information in there. drop site news has done some actual journalism based on these document dumps. This one is just too attractive to low effort social media content producers. Too salacious.
I haven't been digging through these documents. Could be others which are related. This is the one that's being circulated in my bubble. It isn't clear if this person is claiming she was also present for the infanticide but at the very least she is is saying she gave birth then the baby was no more so (if the story is real) something bad must have happened because a private citizen cannot just remove a child from its parent's care.
https://web.archive.org/web/20251223055820if_/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 8/EFTA00025010.pdf (clicking the link won't work because of the spaces, have to select copy paste) dated 08/03/2020.
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Witness Information
First Name: Donald
Middle Name:
Last Name: Trump
Age: 70
DOB:
Additional Info: Again, just trying to find out the NYPD detective on the FBI sex trafficking task force that called me a couple of weeks ago and spoke to me about some of these issues.
How is Contact Known: He participated regularly in paying money to force me to with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.
They are intentionally picking at this for that reason. Easy to dismiss, so the rest they can just say is the same quality
So maybe it’s our turn to Flood The Zone™. Keep them on rhe defense, tire them out, and wait for them to make a mistake. A few weeks of this and I’d wager he’s just ducking stupid enough to admit to the shit he did, just to disprove the shit he didn’t do.
I reckon that if you questioned him in the white house press room and called him a gay pedophile because he had sex with little boys (which would also make him a DEI hire), he would balk so hard at that that he'd let something spill live on camera.
But you'd have to stand and keep eye contact with him such that you looked like you were about to cross the room and kick his head in, because at heart, he is a coward.
Basically you call anyone a pedo publically and that sticks in everyones heads. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, they'll think it. It's why the conservatives make hella random ass wide spread bs accusations since it does eventually get ingrained in ppls head so they subconcioisly get turned away from those candidates.
No, you misunderstand. His fanboys will never change. The question is whether the FBI and DOJ have actually investigated anything. And this is an example where they didn't. That's more felonies for lying to Congress, that's more dark shit to look into.
Remember, we aren't a court. We don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. We are the people demanding transparency and oversight. Justice? Fuck, he would die before any trial took place, at this point, he's just too old and too sick.
You don't even have any evidence to suggest they didn't investigate the claim. Do you have any idea how many lunatics file false claims every day? Overwhelming is with time-wasting bullshit sure sounds like a great way to stall for time. I'm not interested in helping mask the real stuff but looking at one-off unsubstantiated reports that any citizen could make.
Show me a single shred of evidence supporting this claim and I'll be with you. But at this point it's a giant fucking waste of time and energy.
It's like... It's going just as planned.
The same could be said about the Epstein files themselves. There are so many clearer instances of Trump breaking the law, his oath, and the constitution without having to back to something that came out during his previous term and devolved to nothing. To me, it's funny how people point to real world threats and problems Trump is threatening, preparing, and has already caused and saying that that's a distraction from Epstein and not the other way around.
Propagandist don't just feed their own narratives, they feed the easiest takes to deal with from their opposition so that their loudness drowns out the most effective opposition. With Trump, evidence seems to point that Epstein is definitely bothering him but it is not really stopping him from doing any of the BS he's doing. The point isn't that it doesn't bother him, but that he keeps the focus on the small things that bother him so that people ignore the big things that would.
Democrats when the Republicans put up a anti-DEI, anti-Trans or similar tip line: "Haha, wouldn't it be a shame if someone called this tip line with bullshit tips so they wasted all their time on wild goose chases? Don't do that, of course! /s"
Democrats when there's a claim against Donald Trump that comes from a tip line: "Oh my god, do you guys know what Donald Trump did?!?"
Please guys, allow the Republicans to be the party of gullibility, there's no need to compete for them on that one.