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Former Colorado elections clerk Tina Peters is asking the state appeals court to recognize Donald Trump’s pardon of her state convictions as valid.

In a motion Tuesday, Peters’ lawyers said the Colorado appeals court no longer has jurisdiction over her case because of a Dec. 5 pardon issued by Trump. They also asked the court to release her from prison because of the pardon.

Peters, the former Mesa County, Colorado clerk, was convicted of state crimes there for orchestrating a data breach scheme driven by false claims about voting machine fraud in the 2020 presidential race.

Trump’s pardon power does not extend to state crimes.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

edit: 9 Years, Tina, makes me wonder how you will justify the enormous harm you did. You'll be around 77, and long forgotten by your supporters by the time you emerge from incarceration. smh

The Details: "Judge says “prison is the only place” for Tina Peters, who remained defiant even as she asked the court for probation " Former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters was sentenced Thursday to nine years behind bars by a judge who labeled her a “charlatan” for her role in a 2021 breach of her own county’s election system.

“Your lies are well-documented and these convictions are serious,” he said. “I am convinced you would do it all over again. You are as defiant a defendant as this court has ever seen.” He added that the damage she caused is “unmeasurable.”

Barrett also called out Peters for lying when she demonstrated her infamous videotaped attempt to kick a police officer in 2022. That incident had nothing to do with her trial, but she included it in a litany of lies she said were part of the case against her.

She bent over and kicked a leg in the air to show how having her arm pulled had caused that involuntary movement. Barrett called that assertion “preposterous.” There was tittering throughout the courtroom over her demonstration.

The rest is in this article: https://coloradosun.com/2024/10/03/tina-peters-election-security-trial-sentenced/

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck that. It's a stupid pithy line

Everyone in prison should have a good reason for being there. This woman interfered with elections. That's a big deal. She should stay in a box until she can be trusted to not do so in the future. She doesn't sound very sorry

A lot of people are in there just to generate money for private corporations

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She did the crime, has no remorse, and would probably do it again. Read what the Justice Barrett had to say about her.

And yeah, it's a stupid pithy line, but it applies to her. I'm not talking, nor was OP talking about the unjust nature of private prisons, which is well known and in need of fixing. You've tried to muddy the waters, by bringing up the 'private, for profit, corporate prisons', which is another unrelated but none the less extremely serious problem in the US today.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I said. She doesn't seem very sorry, and society does need her away from elections

It's the stupid pithy line itself I take issue with. We have an insanely disproportionate amount of people in prison, we can't be dismissing prisoners as deserving to be there

I just think repeating that line is bad for society. It doesn't matter if it applies, it's an anti-society meme

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok. And actions taken by Tina Peters are also destructive to society. Do you think my repeating that 'pithy line' is anywhere near as bad as the crimes that Tina Peters has been convicted of? It seems like you are hung up on this one line, and ignoring Peters' crimes, which are the subject of OP's post. Would it make you happier to make another post about the horrible nature of the private prison system in the US? It certainly would be more effective in furthering your goal of bringing attention to the problems posed by private prisons.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

No, of course not. Fuck her, she seems horrible

I just think the line is bad. It's an evil meme. I think it shouldn't be said, it's that simple.

And in this case specifically, there's not much wiggle room. Who is going to defend her seriously? On Lemmy no less?

So this is the perfect time for a negative social reaction and correction. It's how you fight bad memes

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, it's the line itself I take issue with. I think using it is harmful to society in some small way. I think you don't mean it to be, it's a meme. It sticks in your head and comes out at opportunune times

I just think it's an anti-society meme. I think it's bad, and that we shouldn't spread it, but instead we should react negatively to it