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"This giant bubble on the island of Sardinia holds 2,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide. But the gas wasn’t captured from factory emissions, nor was it pulled from the air. It came from a gas supplier.... "The facility compresses and expands CO2 daily in its closed system, turning a turbine that generates 200 megawatt-hours of electricity, or 20 MW over 10 hours."

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 21 points 6 days ago (7 children)

It came from a gas supplier....

Where do you think supplier got it from?

Also: WHERE ARE THE ROUNDTRIP EFFICIENCY NUMBERS???

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

This CO2 is acting as a reusable fluid in a closed loop. The initial capture of the CO2 costs energy, but the battery keeps using the same CO2 over and over again. So the question of efficiency should be more about land usage and maintenance of the rest of the parts and the labor needed for each megawatt stored vs what other grid scale energy storage costs in materials and labor.

The rough reality is that batteries aren't going to be up to the task of grid scale energy storage unless they have a couple huge breakthroughs. Something like this is a far less materially expensive way to store energy for later use.

Currently most grid scale energy storage is just pumping water up a hill and letting it back down through a generator. It is extremely limited in where it can be used and requires tremendous space to be effective.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This concept was started 3-5 years ago, when retail batteries where $500/kwh. They are now under $100/kwh. Concept is worthwhile for diversification of resources and talent.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

There's not enough minable copper or lithium to make all of the batteries we will need. So e alternatives will have to emerge if we are to reduce the need for generating power on demand with fuels.

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