I read an old thread documenting the opinions of Lemmy maintainers an the .ml instance. The issue of funding a project with people openly expressing opinions many find distasteful and it being the biggest reddit alternative on the fediverse came up, so here's a topic to discuss it.

What should we do? What are the options?

Answer: No fork necessary, there are Piefed and Mbin.

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 21 points 3 days ago (12 children)

I really don't like this dangerous trend of condemning actions of people based on wether we agree with them or disagree with them.

Because this behavior is at the base for intolerance and strong polarization.

First of all, I want to judge your actions for what they are, not for what your political views are. So Lemmy is good and I like that full stop. There will be better alternatives (maybe already are) and I will judge them without agreeing with their creators political views.

Second, I prefer to discuss and interact with people who have different views and political ideas than me, because that's where I grow my ideas and enforce or dispute them. Enough of the echo chamber where the "algorithm" already places us in every social fucking media.

Kids, it's by enforcing and supporting even the ideas contrary to yours that you grow up. Yes this is annoying and can cause serious brain engagement, but yeah, that's how we progress.

Even fascists or communist ideas. Zionist or pro-Palestine, pro gender or anti woke, if we start judging peoples actions only for their ideas we become fascists.

I was also tought that what you do is more significant than what you say. Judge by actions, not words.

So I don't dislike technology because the guy behind it is a fascist or a communist.

Said so, if anybody thinks that can do a better Lemmy by forking it, go ahead and let me judged by the actions.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OK, let's say somebody who hates you to the core and wants to see you dead made software you found great. All they said was stuff like "I think your kind deserves to be shot", "your kind are subhuman", "they hung your kind and I see nothing wrong with that".

Would you use their software? Would you enjoy being part of the numbers that they use to validate getting money, maybe even power? Would you publicly promote their software? Would you get others to use it? Would you even donate to them? Would you get others to donate to them?

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 7 points 2 days ago

How does the Lemmy creators actually personally benefit from the fact I run my own Lemmy instance?

I do not donate to them, but how is the technology created be them evil if it fits my concept of decentralized web?

Do they get money because I run my instance o use another one not under their control? O doubt it

I am actually using their tech against themselves, so what?

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