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I appreciate the information here. I just wish to point out if we're talking about human displacement, Canada and the US can be accused of the same upon its indigenous populations, the practice of slavery, and a history of segregation/apartheid.
If one is highlighting this mechanism/issue to discuss the real costs of industry and economic development, I think it's a worthy issue. Were there better alternatives to what the European and Western powers ended up doing to others? I certainly hope so.
But if one frames this so called displacement as a moral issue to pretend a better or superior position, then this is delusional. I'd rather defer to the UN Declaration of Human Rights and suggest that the world should aspire to do more.
This is a confusing stance. You want the world to do more but are disparaging the warning someone with information is giving to a country so they are not roped into abuse.
You don’t know if there were better alternatives to what western and European powers did to others? I really do hope that you, as part of the world are contributing to the solution in some way, because it really does sound like needless culpability.
You may have misinterpreted the article. This is about Canada's possible future trade ties with China and the threat of political and economic coercion for all Canadian people.
There were certainly better alternatives in the past. Canada (and the rest of the democratic world) must deal with this. This is an issue of its own.
It has nothing to do with Canada-China relations and the fact that Canada must not get dependent on a dictatorial government that will exploit Canadian people, not matter who they are.
As an addition, there is a report published just yesterday by Genocide Watch, a rights group, that finds China at extermination and denial stages in Uyghur genocide:
The entire report makes a devastating read. This happens now, in 2025.
This is whataboutism. The fact that Canada fails to be perfect in all regards doesn't excuse anything done by other countries.
All of the horrible things you describe have been what humans have been doing to each other since the dawn of time.
Many of the indigenous peoples of the Americas for instance practiced blood sport, ritual sacrifice and they also slaughtered their neighbors in wars. Whenever there is an organized concentration of power, atrocities are committed. The smallest nations and the briefest periods exist all over where less terrible things have happened, but it keeps continuing now... like it always has.
I'm not justifying anything. I think humanity as a species is truly horrific. We're capable of awful things, no matter how demure we may appear on the surface.. and once anyone starts getting that power the things they are willing to do simply changes. Maybe one ruler can be benign, or even two... but it never lasts. History can be forgotten, history books can be re-written, the scale of the atrocity may be different... but it's always there.
We don't really deserve anything but extinction as a species. There's no observable path forward where we will change for the better either.