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[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The real danger is voter apathy, with Albertans figuring there's no way separation will win based on the high number of sigs on the petition so they don't bother voting, much like Brexit.

The last AB referendum showed 38.7% of eligible voters voted. If that number holds the same, and your number of 30% want to separate is correct, it's over. Every single traitor is going to vote, which could result in a landslide separatist win with 77% of voters voting to separate.

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

So, what about First Nations? Are you going to vote away their land??

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

How could they have their land voted away? AB separating just wouldn't work, with First Nations land being just one reason. Most separatists are simply traitors who don't understand what the consequences would be. The ones who know what they're doing know it would never work, but that's not the point. The point is a weakened and fractured Canada. There's a vested interest (primarily from the US) in dividing Canada, and this is a great way to do it.

All I'm saying is I hope Albertans don't get complacent, and actually get out and vote at the referendum. Brexit has proven what lack of understanding and voter apathy can result in. It can just as easily happen in AB, and all it takes is Albertans not bothering to vote because "there's no way separation will happen".

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

My friends in Alberta, are First Nations. And this was my first thought. We should send the people who want to be Americans, to America.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

So, what about First Nations?

The separatists don't concern themselves with "minor details" like that.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The big thing i've found to be problematic in Alberta isn't apathy, but that young people tend to vote the same way their parents (and grandparents) vote, without actually learning anything about where politicians lean these days.

Nobody is doing the research and learning that the Conservatives these days are actually more like Adolf Hitler than Peter Lougheed.

I would vote for Peter Lougheed if I could, but i can't vote for these corporate fascists.

I wish older Albertans could see this, but they're not putting in the work anymore. They have their beds in their assisted care homes and don't realize they're the last that will get that.

Or, even worse, they get it...and just don't care.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You think the people who signed the Forever Canadian petition are all people who want to leave Canada?

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Haha no, where did you get that out of what I said?

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

My bad, it seemed like you were implying that the 38.7% of people who signed the Forever Canadian petition and the 30% who are (or at least were) for Alberta separatism were the exact same group.

[–] Darkonion@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I think the real reason the UCP leadership puts this kind of crazy stuff on the ballot is to make sure that 30% shows up to vote in force. If everyone else turns up to vote, or their base had a regular level of turnout, then they'd have no shot.