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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Tbf, i dont think they could name all of the African American slaves or the millions killed in the DRC.

You know the drill: Ukrainian starvation genocide = crime of communism.

When the Turkish capitalist empire does the same to Armenians, that's just one of those things. Feels kinds commie though.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I never count the many crimes of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao as crimes of communism. Because Lenin betrayed the revolution and had the actual communists arrested so that he could cement his totalitarian dictatorship.

He lost the November 1917 election, and threw a hissy fit that caused a civil war.

Which started a long line of dictators pretending to be communists, pretending that communism requires a dictatorship.

If the State owns everything, and has police that will kill you for speaking out, then you don't live under communism, you live under feudalism in a coat of red paint.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You have been banned from .ml

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Actually... Yes, but only for saying that Julian Assange isn't a hero to be worshiped.

He had a good idea, but his ties to Russia taint everything.

Per the fact that he's repeatedly turned down leaks critical of Russia.

There's a certain type of person who strongly believes in binaries. They rightly see that the US is shit, and somehow believe that makes anyone who "stands up to the US" automatically good.

It's half of the Tankie mentality. The other half is actively cheering for dictators and the murder of "non-conformists", whatever shape they take.

On a final note, https://ddosecrets.com/ is what WikiLeaks looks like with protections for innocents mentioned in the leaks.

WikiLeaks has such a policy, but have leaked names of activists and whistleblowers several times now.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I never count the many crimes of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao as crimes of communism. Because Lenin betrayed the revolution and had the actual communists arrested so that he could cement his totalitarian dictatorship.

Capitalist countries killed as much so both system killed millions of people

If the State owns everything, and has police that will kill you for speaking out, then you don't live under communism, you live under feudalism in a coat of red paint.

I would say that's ultranationalism

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

There are museums for African American history which have exhibits about slavery and its victims, if you're interested. https://www.wonderfulmuseums.com/museum/slavery-museums-in-the-united-states/

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe instead of people, naming the major massacres

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dude did you just seriously call Ottoman Empire capitalist?

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They had private enterprise. So, In what way were they not capitalist? Imperial colonial economies are capitalist, by nature.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ottoman empire is 600 years old it experience both systems

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When the genocide happened. I thought that was obvious.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

What is mercantilism but proto-capitalism?