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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't mix and match time periods for different types of data and compare them straight on.

Your data about Canadians being detained is from 2025.

Your data about Canadian trips to the US is from 2024.

These data points are not relevant.

You need to compare the detained rate from 2024 with the detained rate of 2025, and you can only do that once you have the full data.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When talking orders of magnitude in size, it's not an unreasonable comparison. The number of Canadians detained is peanuts compared to the number actively down there.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We don't know that until we know how many have actually crossed the border in 2025.

There have been constant reports of massive reductions in tourism in the US, it is not unreasonable to expect that Canadian tourism have reduced by a lot, meaning that it will affect the detained rate by quite a lot.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

If travel dropped by an order of magnitude, and 3.9 million Canadians traveled to the USA, that's 200 people in 3,900,000, a bit less than 1 in 19,000. On a national scale that's obviously a concerning number, but on an individual scale, I'm not sure personal exposure to that risk will change all that many people's decisions. Those who it does change likely perceive themselves at higher risk than the average Canadian.

That's assuming it's a good estimate, but I suspect from numbers I've seen on flight traffic drops, this is an overestimate; likely more Canadians traveled to the USA, and so the individual risk is even lower.