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Obama encourages Democrats to focus on winning back House, not "tactical differences"
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And when a Dem wins the presidential election they nominate a chair and the DNC vote is performative...
Obama could have named anyone, going off memory but the first time he didn't nominate at all, and the second time was for the neoliberal who gave 2016 to Hillary, likely at Biden's recommendation.
And you're making my point, trump couldn't have beaten anyone in a fair election, the only two times he's won and when Dems had rigged primaries to force historically unpopular candidates.
Biden even managed to beat him, like 40 years after his first disasterous primary. That's my point, Bernie would have stomped trump.
Trump polled more historically unpopular than Clinton and Harris, and one of the main points of discussion to follow was how incongruent the polling was with the votes. You can't Monday morning quarterback this productively. And in any case, it sidesteps my point. Were Clinton and Harris great candidates? No. In a well America, should they still have beaten Trump handily? Absolutely. We're not well, as a nation, and you can't lay that at Obama's feet.
Buddy...
You're acting like we didn't know Bernie was a stronger candidate during the primary...
Things don't magically become real these one you admit them, they're true before you realize it too
You should continue that quote.
The very end?
You saying people can't follow logic to it's logical conclusion...
Because you don't agree with it? Then try to use logic.
Don't just insist that reality was different so you get your warm and fuzzies.
And absolut shit ton of people were ringing alarm bells not just in 2016 during the primary, but back in 2008 when Obama and the party instead of seizing it.
It's oke you just started paying attention, I'm sincerely glad. But stop fucking acting like nothing was realized before you personally did so that's the shit trump does with his "nobody knows" and you won't stop saying "nobody knew" despite a shit ton of us, and we weren't exactly shy about it.
This is not a puzzle I'm trying to get you to solve. You needn't hypothesize about intention or my experience or alternate histories. I'm literally saying:
The issues people have with Clinton and Harris, however valid they may be, do not amount to a reason to vote for Trump or refrain from voting. That is the disconnect from reality that I'm addressing.
Bernie polled well with a segment of voters who ended up going to trump. That would have turned the whole race. Instead we had Clinton's baggage and corporate puppetry running against a guy who represented the puppeteers.