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[โ€“] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but we're having this conversation in 2025, after phylogenetic classification has long since taken over as the way we describe the relations between species.

Birds are unambiguously reptiles.

Mammals are not reptiles, but are the most closely-related animals to them.

[โ€“] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Who is "we"? It certainly isn't most people. It's like these interminable "no such thing as a fish" bollocks. Or "AcKsHuAlLy bananas are berries OHOHOHOHO."

Keep that kind of jargon for your academic articles. In pop-sci contexts like here, it's not unreasonable to use, but it deserves a health warning because of the intersection of audiences. Insisting that there's only one correct usage is insufferable.

[โ€“] stray@pawb.social 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But bananas are berries. It's fun to learn things.

[โ€“] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What underlying fact does that teach you? Only that botanists categorise fruits a certain way. Learning that word doesn't teach you anything about bananas, does it?

[โ€“] stray@pawb.social 1 points 58 minutes ago

Well, it taught me that berries have a strict botanical meaning rather than just being and cute little fruit on a bush, and that there can be multiple meanings for a word based on context. There's nothing wrong with calling a strawberry a berry even while understanding it's not really a berry. Correctness is important in formal discussions, but we can have fun being intentionally wrong in everyday speech where poetry and history hold more value.

From there one asks, "What is a berry? What about a banana makes it a berry? And what is a strawberry if not a berry?" And so one reads and one learns. "What about a raspberry? What about grapes?" The internet is as forthcoming with answers as one's brain is with questions.