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Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

The whole concept of the Fediverse as social media is that all the data is public. Stop acting like these servers are giving out private data. This data has never been private, and it never will be. Data like this being shared with any other server is how ActivityPub and the Fediverse work.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I know, but some people assume votes are private.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you'd only ever interacted with Lemmy and not read up on how ActivityPub works then that's a reasonable assumption, it's not like anything (that I've noticed!) actually tells you that your votes are public, and they don't look to be public in the places you're likely to see!

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy likes aren't meant to be public, this is just other software failing to respect the privacy Lemmy indicates.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's almost as bad as using robots.txt to claim sites are private and secure and just whining that people/bots should respect it.

You should assume voter data is fully public and fully open. It otherwise is in the federated ecosystem.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The comparison doesn't work because both Lemmy and Mbin are implementing the same standard, while robots.txt is mostly an honour system.

You should assume voter data is fully public and fully open. It otherwise is in the federated ecosystem.

Information not being private isn't the same thing as information being public.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

idk, the label is also an honor system, if it can be just ignored like robots.txt.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't explain what I meant very well. To scrape a website you don't need to understand robots.txt, implementing robots.txt is something you do to be a good netizen. But to get like info from Lemmy, implementing ActivityPub is a requirement.

Now I'll admit, it's not a great system and I do wish we had something better, but I also don't think "this isn't a good way to communicate preferences" is a good reason to ignore them.

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