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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 66 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Same with raspberrypi really.
companies just can't seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

[–] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 76 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That's just it, you don't need to grow. Just sell a useful product at a reasonable price.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 41 points 23 hours ago

Not for capitalism though

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In capitalism, the consumer isn't the target audience. A business exists to make money. The more money you make, the more shareholders you gain, the more the shareholders demand BLOOD!

[–] mech@feddit.org 10 points 20 hours ago

No one forces you to sell shares.

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They seem to forget that "line go up" isn't the primary objective. If you make a good product and give half a shit about your customers, the line goes up as a natural consequence.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but line go up fast enough?

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Line go brrrr?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

companies just can't seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

That's like saying "people just can't seem to harness the advantages of cancer without dying"

If you never take money and get hooked by outside sources, you can just slowly grow, with no debt, beholden to no one

If you take the money with any strings attached at all, you basically have to grow like cancer or your company will be sold for parts. It's inevitable at that point

Don't take the money kids. If you have to take a business loan in the beginning - fine,

[–] andioop@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

was the comma a typo of a period, or did you have more to say here? if you have more to say i'm eager to listen

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 12 hours ago

I meant to delete the comment to keep things simple, but what I was going to say is something like

fine, but debt is like gambling. There's situations where it makes sense, but it's addictive. It's mortgaging your own future, even when it maths out it's a risk - shit happens

And if you over leverage and under perform, it's over. If you can pay yourself and your employees, you're better off never taking on debt again.

Like Wegmans. It's the very best grocery store, everyone who goes there agrees. They grow slowly because they only open new locations when they have the cash to do so, and so they never have to compromise on quality in any way