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[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You made the decision you have a child - now take the responsibility and stop relying on the government or companies to educate your children.

"your children, your problem"? No. Raising the next generation is widely understood to be a burden shared between parents and wider society. Point in case: public schools and kindergardens are essential for modern society, and they are largely funded by taxpayer money, not by parents.

We shouldnt just hope that parents successfully fight the hydra of online dangers by doing DNS filtering & running ad blockers on all devices their children can get their hands on.

We are perfectly able to block minors from entering brothels, or from buying cigarettes and booze. Why should we not be able to do the same for internet usage?

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

public schools and kindergardens are essential for modern society

Yes, because those are supposed to instill essential skills like reading, calculus, history etc. They aren't supposed to tell kids "Hey kiddos being on tiktok 12 hours a day is bad don't do that" - that is your job as a parent.

We shouldnt just hope that parents successfully fight the hydra of online dangers by doing DNS filtering & running ad blockers on all devices their children can get their hands on.

You're right, we shouldn't hope - we should expect. Dumping a child into the world and not taking care of it is irresponsible beyond belief. If you can't raise a child, don't have one.

Why should we not be able to do the same for internet usage?

Because the requirements are significantly more extreme.

Blocking a child from a brothel requires a security guard to take a look at the child and maybe check the ID if he's unsure. That's it. Blocking a child from tiktok requires age verifications across the entire internet - which are then bound to an ID, probably stored somewhere and will then be used to eliminate online privacy completely.

It's also denmark planning this - so the very same country that proposes and heavily advocates for chat control. So just another case of trying to control the internet under the guise of "BuT tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdReN".

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Age verification without disclosing all your private data is absolutely doable.

Platforms saying "Yeah just put in your passport data" is cheap, and "we should not block anyone's access to anything on the internet" from privacy advocates is lazy.

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

Age verification without disclosing all your private data is absolutely doable.

Not reliably, which is not what governments want. They want ironclad methods to determine who does what online.

and “we should not block anyone’s access to anything on the internet” from privacy advocates is lazy

Personally, I consider it significantly more lazy to have a child, not give a single flying fuck about what it does in the world and expect the entire world to raise your child - but I guess we're just having different perspectives.