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Grow up on a farm and you really have no delusions about how the world works. Although I did think teachers lived at the school so I was unclear with how Mrs Thatcher got pregnant.
I mean you grew up believing that it's healthier to eat meat rather than just more profitable to sell it, or that it is morally defensible in any way to create an intelligent creature and then force it into a state of utter lifelong dependency just so that you can exploit its biological processes, so I wouldn't be so sure about that "no delusions" thing. You're on your own supply.
Humans are part of nature too, and we have our animal instincts same as any other animal. Only thing that differs is our capacity to self-reflect and exercise agency over our place in the ecosystem. What matters is that we have respect for life and don't take it for granted. I agree that factory farms, hunting for sport or luxury goods like furs, etc. is wrong, but I don't see a problem with a small farm raising some animals as long as they're treated with respect and given a comfortable life. All animals - including us - are dependent on others for survival.
Meaningless appeal to nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
No one who breeds, murders, and butchers animals (or who pays to have those things done) has respect for life. You are lying to yourself so that you don't have to see yourself as a bad person. There is a better way not to see yourself as a bad person.
Farms do not "raise" animals. When you raise a child, you prepare it for life. A farm animal does not go on to enjoy life, they are killed in their absolute prime, because that is when the product is at its best. It's absurd that these lies are convincing to you, but we are eager to believe certain lies, aren't we?
it's not being used fallaciously