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"It wasn’t because Biden voters shifted to Trump—but because so many of them stayed home."

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[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe have a fucking primary and people won't stay home.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or, you know, vote, because fucking LUCIFER is on the ballot.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can appreciate not wanting Lucifer to win but the average person doesn't get motivated by lesser of the two evils, its not enough. The other guy has to make them want to get off their ass. Obama made people want to get out and vote. Trump did too, as much as I don't like to admit it.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

the average person doesn’t get motivated by lesser of the two evils

A huge number of choices in life are just that. So suck it up, Buttercup.

This person isn't saying it's not enough for them personally, they're saying it's clearly, obviously, per all evidence, not enough for MANY people - objectively enough to turn an election. So if you want better leaders you must motivate voters by giving them something to vote for. Lesser of two fascists pisses me off but I'll hold my nose and vote. However, I also recognize this is a piss poor strategy since so many will not.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Your attitude isn't very inspirational.

[–] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A Trump presidency isn't either.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

Eh, I'll just sleep through it.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Life isn't inspirational either.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

In that case, I'll find something else that's inspirational. A relaxing walk by the lake, perhaps?

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

If the voting public could be convinced of that Republicans would cease to be a viable party due to overwhelming voter turnout. But, well, Gestures to the last potus election

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Problem is they know millions of votes are happening, and so how much does their vote really matter? Taking the time out of their life to stand in a long line to cast a single vote among millions... Doesn't seem like it matters and other people will take care of it for them.

When they have something to bite for, they want to be a part of something. If it's just about making sure the worst stays out, it's a poorly motivated chore.

[–] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Why can't you tell the people nominating corporate puppets to suck it up and fall in line?

Why does it always have to be the working class that suffers so rich people can be richer?

Why can't you people be smarter?

That is literally what made me vote. But they all suck for sure, other than a few.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And that just means we Americans get what we deserve.

It's a civic duty. The only people to blame are ourselves.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that puts enough blame on the assholes with money who are taking advantage of the system and intentionally tipping the scales

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And one way they tip the scales is by pusing the message that, if the Democratic Partty candidate is less than perfect, don't vote. And meanwhile, corrupt, bloodthirsty criminals on the R side get a free pass. And the purists are too stupid to see that.

And I say this in full awareness of the DNC's role in gutting the effectiveness of the Democratic Party as an agent of change.

Vote the lesser evil if that's all there is. But also organize and drive corporate shills out of the party leadership.

[–] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

if the Democratic Partty candidate is less than perfect, don’t vote.

Uhh... no. This couldn't be farther from the truth and you know it.

We don't need 'perfection' we just need 'good.'

I'm sorry you're not smart enough to realize this, but the lesser evil isn't good.

I'm glad trump won because otherwise people like you wouldn't be upset. If you don't learn from this election, then you'll get the same results in the next one.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I gotta imagine a fair amount of opposition to stuff like early voting or vote by mail is rooted in the idea that the easier we make it the more likely folks will vote for the lesser evil.

[–] ninexe@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] marietta_man@feddit.nl -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And your rigid and unrealistic “principles” put Trump in office

[–] ninexe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not really. It was the people selling out the working class.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trump and Republicans sell out the working class way more than even the most boring DINO centrist/moderate Democrats.

Vote who is closest to your views, you'll get closer to where you want to be.