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I plan on traveling to Canada, but I do have this worry.

To be more specific, I'm not kinda black, my skin's somehow white, but I have black relatives, which means I got wavy hair and some other things.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stay away from Alberta and you should be safe.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

alberta politics is awkward but people are friendly in larger communities. Some remote small communities may be awkward but not always.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I was frequently harassed and the rest just stood by and did nothing. I won't be going back.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I would actually say Alberta politics are insane, but disregarding that, people here are still usually friendly enough. Yes racism and bigotry is still (baffling) a universal experience, something you could possibly come into contact with, well, just about anywhere in the world.

Are you going to get a sideways look somewhere? I mean maybe, can't say for sure you won't. But are you going to get run out of town by people bearing pitchforks and torches? Well no. I can almost say for certainty that won't happen anywhere in our country. A Canadian, even the goofy ass hillbilly ones that shout at clouds and vaccines on Facebook, would file that under something pretty god damn weird. And we collectively largely ignore those ones. Behind their backs we point and laugh at them too, so fear not.

Come see our country OP. It's beautiful, and almost universally welcoming and accessible. Don't forget your coat this time of year, it sure is beautiful but it's also cold as shit in certain areas. Personally I think the atmosphere adds to the beauty.

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The majority are though. I didn't feel safe when I last went there.

[–] altasshet@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm not gonna pretend everything is fine and dandy here. Not an Alberta native, and a lot of things still shock me even after 3 years here (how dominant religion is in some segments of the population, all the fucking trucks everywhere all the time, people keep on voting conservative despite, well, everything they're actually doing...). But I don't think it's as big of a majority as one would think. FPTP politics will distort reality and make the place look more conservative than it really is. All that to say - I get the negative image, and the reality on the ground will vary based on where you are and who you meet. Hopefully we can get the place into a state where people feel safe coming here.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do they dismiss entire provinces' worth of people as jerks based on a single experience? Because that would be a pretty awful thing for them to do, yeah.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

buddy I grew up in Alberta. and there's 2 things to sum up the people.

During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office, and saw a woman with no mask picking up 2 boxes labeled cristianbooks.com

the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment.

these are two light hearted examples, with many more in the memory bank.

there's jerks everyone. My worst bit of transphobia was in Toronto.

But Alberta does seem to have the highest concentration of jerks. at least as far as my experience has gone.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

During mask mandates I was in the Carstairs post office,

Carstairs is a rural town with a population of 4900.

the second is everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment.

Oh, everyone?

I happen to be Albertan and the notion of being compared to Texas fills me with anger. I'd like you to back that up with some kind of poll or statistic, please.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if your taking things that literally on the internet, I can't help you.

but what I can say is I didnt know anyone who understood it's an insult was until I moved out of Alberta. So everyone I met while growing up, yeah.

for the record I grew up in Calgary.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OP is being warned to "stay away" specifically from Alberta because we're apparently not safe to be around, how am I supposed to be taking this? So far the only solid reasons that have been given are:

  • Alberta produces a lot of oil.
  • Someone in a small town post office didn't wear a mask while picking up a box of books related to Christianity, which I might add is far more widely practised in Canada's eastern provinces.
  • Apparently "everyone" in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment. Based on the fact that you personally didn't know anyone who thought otherwise, in your particular social bubble.

So yeah, I'm rather offended. I think OP would have a perfectly fine time coming to visit Alberta.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

why are you taking it personally that were talking about you specifically?

I know many great Albertians. But they're a slim minority. The people, as a whole, are not as good to interact with if your a person if color. this is coming from friends who are.

we're not saying you specifically are an ass, but that a lot more people are asses in Alberta than most other places in Canada.

I gave you a few light hearted examples.

how about the person who crashed into my friends cart for wearing a mask in a store and said "don't rob me".

how about all the terrible things said about natives out there?

how about the police running moonlight walks?

or the anti abortion ads that used to be on trucks and on the university campus showing graphic photos?

there's more than you there.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the anger about Albertans being painted as lunatics and compared to Texas, I mean come on, you don't need stats or polls to see how that is. Not when the press focuses in, rightfully, on our premier who has both a pick-me complex, and insists on (loudly) representing the most grossest, fringest interests, which are wildly xenophobic, authoritarian, science denying, treasonist and corrupt in it's wildest extremes. Which is baffling when you consider that it's a pretty small number of our overall population that actually is represented by this nonsense. That only have power because of our distorted ways that we vote for representation, and weird ass governments that completely rug pull and stand for mandates they refuse to acknowledge at election time, because their wackadoodle party keeps getting hijacked and controlled by these fringe unelected people.

So don't be confused or have shocked Pikachu face or anything when people outside (or inside) the province paint us with these brushes. It's deserved, because we keep allowing it to happen. We keep allowing these people to abuse us and control the narrative about who we are.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, I know why people have picked up a distorted and prejudiced view of Albertans.

Should I go "oh, okay then, carry on believing that and propagating the stereotype?"

It's true that we've got a terrible premier. It is not true that it's "unsafe" for tourists to visit. It's not true that "everyone in Alberta thinks being compared to Texas is a compliment." And so I will call those falsehoods out when they're propagated.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean look at what the government is doing and how most albertans support them. They have the largest emissions per capita in North America.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what the government is doing

Which is?

how most albertans support them.

Let's hear those specifics, I think you'll find that the population's not as supportive of whatever you're imagining they're supporting. And in particular the large cities, which are NDP strongholds.

They have the largest emissions per capita in North America.

This is why you think a tourist wouldn't be safe here? Because we're an oil-producing province?

Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Better advise OP not to visit Norway either, they must be monsters over there.

The cops don’t carry guns there and the population is more accepting of other people groups.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Norway has the highest market share of evs at 96% so they're cleaning up the mess.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet they produce 2 million barrels of oil per day. Must be a bunch of jerks.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their emissions are still lower than that of Alberta and the wealth is shared with the everyday people ie the oil fund. Though they should reinvest into renewables and heat pumps more.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

And for that reason OP isn't "safe" when they visit Alberta, but would be "safe" if they visited Norway? I still have yet to figure out what this connection between the oil industry and personal safety is.

Thanks, friend. Noted that down.