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Oracle made a $300 billion bet on OpenAI. It's paying the price. (finance.yahoo.com)
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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

your changing the definition of open source software.

https://techwireasia.com/2025/07/china-open-source-ai-models-global-rankings/

The tide has turned. With the December 2024 launch of DeepSeek’s free-for-all V3 large language model (LLM) and the January 2025 release of DeepSeek’s R1 (the AI reasoning model that rivals the capabilities of OpenAI’s O1), the open-source movement started by Chinese firms has sent shockwaves through Silicon Valley and Wall Street.

And:

DeepSeek, adopting an open-source approach was an effective strategy for catching up, as it allowed them to use contributions from a broader community of developers.”

I've read similar descriptions in other articles, seems your claim is false.

EDIT PS:
Turns out on further investigation that Deepseek is NOT open source, there is NO access to the source code for Deepseek. Only the weights as others have rightfully claimed.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

can you show me the actual source code?

the human readable code, not the weights.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The (claimed) source:
https://github.com/deepseek-ai

Investigating further I can see it is NOT open source. All the articles saying that are lying, probably unknowingly just as I believed the claim, they probably did too, and I'm NOT being sarcastic!
I have no idea why publishing these "weights" is considered open source, it has nothing to do with Open Source as defined by OSI, which I believe has a historical right to the term.

I apologize.

[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

forgive my snarkiness. its usually the quickest way to this realization.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh I didn't detect any snarkiness, just you being to the point, which is a thing I appreciate.
But I'm often considered impolite. I think it's a culture thing.

But I must admit I am annoyed by you contradicting me, but it's even worse that you were right.
I find that generally offensive.
So I'll go sulk in corner for a few minutes. 😜 😋 🤣