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[–] nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

switched from portainer to arcane recently. much easier on the eyes and the ability to save compose projects without deploying them yet is exactly what i was looking for. one thing is weird and i should prolly make an issue for it: no horizontal scroll or word wrap function in the compose editor, so for those compose files with extensive comments like npmplus you'll have to have open in a text editor or webpage to read to the end of lines.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I'm just waiting for something like this with native podman support

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

man, arcane looks amazing, I ended up deciding off it though as their pull requests look like they use copilot for a lot of code for new features. Not that I personally have an issue with this but, I've seen enough issues where copilot or various AI agents add security vulnerabilities by mistake and they aren't caught, so I would rather stray away from those types of projects at least until that issue becomes less common/frequent.

For something as detrimental as a management console to a program that runs as root on most systems, and would provide access to potentially high secure locations, I would not want such a program having security vulnerabilities.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a program that runs as root

Does it have to run as root? It's common to run Docker in rootless mode in production environments.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

while docker does have a non-root installer, the default installer for docker is docker as root, containers as non-root, but since in order to manage docker as a whole it would need access to the socket, if docker has root the container by extension has root.

Even so, if docker was installed in a root-less environment then a compromised manager container would still compromise everything on that docker system, as a core requirement for these types of containers are access to the docker socket which still isn't great but is still better than full root access.

To answer the question: No it doesn't require it to function, but the default configuration is root, and even in rootless environment a compromise of the management container that is meant to control other containers will result in full compromise of the docker environment.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

I wouldn't be exposing any management consoles to the internet either way, too much risk with something that has docker socket access.

[–] nublug@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

ugh well that sucks butt. i'll be trying new alternatives tonight i guess lol

any recommendations?

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

I switched from Portainer to Dockge to Komodo. Been very happy with komodo so far

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

Sadly no recommendations, I still use portainer myself

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

Komodo is the best portainer alt I've found, I read through the Arcane info but it doesnt seem as good. Komodos editor also works great.