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The Force Awakens wasn't the issue IMO, it's that the followup movies couldn't be arsed to do any coherency with the previous movies. What did they even think would happen if you switch to a different director for the second movie who wanted to do something else with the trilogy, and then just switch back? It's not even that the second was a bad followup to the first of the trilogy, it's that the third didn't really build on the second.
The third movie also had big issues that couldn't be explained by the director switch, though.
The Force Awakens wasn't the issue?! There has never been a movie that was a bigger issue for a franchise. It was so obviously just a shot for shot reskin of A New Hope even the executives noticed it. That's how we got to the errors with the second and third movies because The Force Awakens was so clearly garbage in writing and directing. If Abrams hadn't fucking goofed it so hard by playing it so safe and thinking so little of his audience then none of the following errors would have had to happened.
Meh. The first movie of the second trilogy had tons of issues, too, you can work with that kind of thing if there's at least a somewhat unified artistic vision - George Lucas had the standing and resources to pull through, JJ Abrams didn't.
And the suits fucked up, too - there wasn't much wrong with the second movie (compared to the first and third ones, anyway), yet they brought back the guy who supposedly fucked up the first movie.