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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hated all of the "say what you want about Trump and Melania... but leave the kids out of it" bullshit.

It's a fucking family of monsters. That's what these "upper crusts" produce. More fucking monsters that never learn accountability, gratitude or anything. Because everyone is so obsessed with sheltering the kids from the actions of their family. And then guess what, that kid grows up and acts EXACTLY like their parents because they were never challenged to be different.

Fuck Baron, just the next link in a chain of fucking monsters.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I hated all of the “say what you want about Trump and Melania… but leave the kids out of it” bullshit.

Well, I have said repeatedly in the past that while his father is a fascist criminal, his mother is a scam artist and a shameless gold digger, and his two elder brothers are professional crooks, Barron deserved the benefit of the doubt until he showed whether he decided to distance himself from his terrible family or not.

I guess he deserves the benefit of the doubt no longer.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

he was always going to turn out this way. Because he had no reason not to. He was being raised by crooks, racists, thieves and rapists. And everyone was like "nono, we shouldn't interfere, it'll be fine".

Want to know why I'm not a red voting racist dipshit like the rest of my family up and down the tree? Because I was challenged as a kid to defend my views and actions of my family. I had to think critically about who was raising me and if that was moral and ethical. I felt ashamed of knowing what my family was instead of just adopting their views wholesale. Because OTHER people didn't just let it happen.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

he was always going to turn out this way. Because he had no reason not to.

Sometimes people escape their faith, and they shouldn't be judged before their reveal their final personality.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

no, they don't. Not unprompted. They have no reason to question it because they're not forced to. And if they grow up surrounded by people reinforcing it, encouraging it, and no one to question it, that becomes their reality, it's how they view the world. Normal to them, a monster to everyone else.

Literally Plato's cave. It's what they're exposed to and what they know. It's their curated reality, taught by monsters. And when they grow up, they reject new information because it doesn't align with what they understand as "reality".

Every person who ever "escaped" their faith, had some external factor that made them have to reconcile their reality. Question the shadows on the cave. Something outside of their bubble made them think that the world was different from what they were raised on. And then they had to choose to learn more over the more comfortable prospect of staying inside. It's why cults work, but no one says "say what you will about the leader, but leave the members alone".... it's the same operating principle.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

This isn't faith this is money and power. And he's not going to give it up.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I think that it's perfectly fine and morally and tactically best practices to not attack minors. None of his kids is a minor anymore. It's also generally for the best to leave out kids who don't participate in politics. All but one of them have made policy decisions for him.

It's the difference between attacking Obama's daughters vs attacking Chelsea Clinton vs attacking Jeb! Bush