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The community dedicated to boycotting the US until they stop fascism, restore full democracy and start following international law.

Americans have a moral obligation to resist Donald Trump and project 2025 at every turn.

America is a flawed democracy currently being ruled by oligarchs. Stop the backslide! Dont let America become the next Hungary.

America needs to challenge the court rulings of citizens united v. fec and shelby county v. holder, protect the media, implement independent district drawing, and the single transferable vote so they don't end up having people stay home in life-changing elections because they cannot vote for their favourite candidate.

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[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The wrong democrats fight back. Because they're not really fighting back. They're fighting over slices of the pie. They never intend to give any of the pie to us. They just want us to vote it to them.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are the reason the fascists are in power. Even if the "wrong democrats" fight back, they are still infinitely better than literal fascists.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, the false dichotomy that there are two sides and only one side is fascists is the reason fascists are in power. It's fascists all the way down. That's their secret. They haven't infiltrated just one side.

Kind, gentle, cloyingly polite nanny-state fascists are still fascists even if you don't immediately recognize them as such.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. It helps when you realize that fascism isn’t really an ideology for the ruling classes. It’s a tool that they use to prevent the working classes from gaining too much power. Once you realize that, it becomes obvious that capitalism is the real ideology, and that any capitalist will use fascism to protect their position.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you said except whether capitalism is the "real ideology". I'd argue it too is just a tool. Ideologies themselves are a tool. I think when you go even further at taking away more and more of the disguise, the real enemy is and always has been an overdose of pure human greed and selfishness, unregulated and out of control. Capitalism is just a way for that greed and selfishness to stand out in public and say "Look at me! Celebrate me! I am a good thing, I am in your best interest! I can help you do things better!" but it's just a costume that greed and selfishness is wearing to make itself socially acceptable as it grows further and further out of control..

It's a really nice costume, logical in a lot of ways, makes sense, pretty convincing, but underneath it there's still just naked greed and selfishness. If we want to truly better ourselves as a society, as a civilization, as humanity, maybe it's time to set it all aside and really do some thinking about what the emperor looks like when he has no clothes.

Do we want to keep scrambling on top of each other to create the tallest possible pile of humans so the people on the top have the best view, or do we want to try starting to be fucking hippies and stuff again? We'll never have zero greed and selfishness. And we don't want to. If we had been completely comfortable, sustainable, happy living as hunter-gatherers, we still would be doing that today. Greed and selfishness are the drive that allow us to grow and explore and develop and become more than we are. But not out of control, not our only overriding goal, not short-sightedly destroying the very systems of life we need to grow, in the name of profit.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I disagree that greed and selfishness are innately driving characteristics to all of humanity, or that those traits motivate more growth and development than altruism and cooperation. Humans, after all, are a social species. I do agree that capitalism incentivizes greed and selfishness, and that in fact it is not possible to succeed at capitalism unless you are greedy and selfish. Because the material realities of our society make success reliant on selfishness, we have more people behaving selfishly than is "natural."

Honestly though, this is why arguments about "human nature" are all bunk. We are products of our environments at all times. A hunter gatherer behaved very differently to a modern office worker, and both would struggle wildly to adapt to the other's environment. There is no one pure human nature.