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Russia's bribing this JACKASS seems to have finally paid off for the Soviets.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just note that you can not calculate like that. At war the whole economy switches over, instead of only a tiny fraction.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The question then is when Europe will realize it's at war and start producing like it.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I disagree. We are being attacked on a regular basis.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A state, let alone a union of lots of states, are not at war because you feel like it. wiki: war

It is generally characterized by widespread violence, destruction, and mortality, using regular or irregular military forces.

So what makes you think the EU is at war and why are all the implications that would have missing?

Note that "being attacked" is something different than being at war, as per above, but I am not going to start a new discussion before we have not finished this one.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Call it a covert war or what you want, but the EU is under attack by Russia and has been for some time. Just because one side has started a war campaign against the other and the other hasn't responded in kind doesn't make the war not real.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those are perhaps hostile actions, but that is far away from war or "war campaign".

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So what it's only war when war is formally declared?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you not read the definition above? It is pretty much the opposite. Just because 2 nations are formally at war with each other does not mean shit, there is a wiki article with absurd examples.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 3 days ago

That's kind of my point

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

There's already a war going on against the EU. The fact that its leaders aren't admitting it yet is a big mistake.