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[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Naive, hope. What ever you want to call it. I just don’t want to live in FallOut, sorry.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looking at Ukraine: not having nukes does not guarantee peace, rather the contrary. Meanwhile, there haven't been that many foreign tanks attacking in those countries that live under the protection of nukes. It's ok to be hopeful, but let's also stay realistic.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay apples and pears aside. Maybe not nukes, but lots of yummy Uranium deposits, only a third less than China has. Then for the rest of the basket, Ukraine and specifically the Donbas is chock full of Lithium. Some of the largest deposits. Reason A doesn’t oppose reason B.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The point is: had Ukraine kept its nukes in the 90s instead of giving them away for a security treaty with Russia that Russia decided to just break, it wouldn't have to defend against the Russian war of aggression right now.

So while you think of nukes as a threat, keep in mind there's people in a war right now and not far away that wished they had kept theirs.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’s not a point at all. Ignoring the facts doesn’t make mutually assured destruction a valid tactic.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would Russia have invaded a Ukraine with nukes?

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, so you refuse to honestly answer the question.

Point proven, thanks.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure. Take your trophy, show your mother. Your whole argument was bs. Hence the yes. But you’ve proven by your response what your true goal is. Enjoy your day lol.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

..you forgot to downvote.

Just to recap:

You apparently feel threatened by nukes in your surroundings - I pointed out that Ukraine would not have to defend itself in a war if they still had nukes. So for them, it would not be a threat but a security for peace. Basically, check your privileges. And so far, you haven't presented anything substantial as a response to my question. Which is fine, but not my problem. So if you're out of arguments, we're done here I guess.

[–] Nanook@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lol, downvote… I hope in the analog you have some people to talk to. I feel it would do you some good.

Edit: lol, triggered.