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I have noticed an uptick in anti-China sentiment recently. Are these bots still trying to convince people that China bad, America better? Like, come on, just look at these numbers:
During Covid:
Which seems more responsible there? And by A LOT.
Every year, to general conflict:
Which are safer? China and Saudi Arabia.
Now, according to World Population Review, Our World Data, the UN and more regarding wealth inequality, the higher the number, the worse (Gini coefficient, 0 would mean everyone has the exact same amount of cash, so, expect it to be a minimum of 20~):
Couldn't find the Gini for Saudi Arabia, but I am sure it's similar to its neighbors, which dingle around the mid 20s or low 30s.
Now look at these 12 war crimes the USA has done:
As a Mexican struggling really hard because of the insane amount of damage the USA has done to us, Reagan and Nixon forcing us to join this pointless war on drugs just so we'd live in fear and work for you cheap, the whole Operation Fast & Furious under Gorge Bush, you promising us that you will save us for over 50 years, inflating your chest and whatnot, yet, your army lost to the Taliban after a decade of fighting them, to some Vietnamese farmers too, they didn't win the 1812 War, the Korean Wars (a stalemate, a really embarrassing one because the US had literally about 21 countries fighting in their side against the Soviets and China, and it was a god damn stalemate, dude, make some sense of that), they lost to Fidel Castro in the Bay of Pigs Invasion, the Iran Hostage Crisis from 1979, the Iraq War, lost the War on Drugs and also Terror, which is costing the USA trillions of dollars a year to fix today and still ongoing, to Vietnam, to Canada in 1812, Lebanon in 1982, Somalia in 1992, Afghanistan in 2001, the Operation Eagle Claw is never forgotten either, struggled so hard in Granada and Panama in the 1980s, struggling and clearly losing in Syria too. They also stole the credit of WWII like the typical leech in a dungeon group who only loots the corpses of the enemies at the very end. Oppenheimer's dad was a German-Jewish man, all the main creators of GTA are from Scotland and the UK, hamburgers were created in Hamburg (and wouldn't exist without the invention of the sandwich, which is English), hot-dogs were created in Germany, Stan Lee was the child of two Romanian-born Jews, his values and culture come from that place more than New York City...
And yet, I still see so many people coping so bad about the American army being "the strongest in the world" and posts like these about China. I used to think the USA was the hero of the world, our "best bet to achieve a utopia due to its cultural diversity and tolerance," lol, but I was wrong, I was naive. I even cried for Bradley Cooper's character in American Sniper, but then, I just remember that that dude killed so many innocent people that were forced to do evil to survive or reclaim their dignity... Like, what the hell is all this, seriously? These posts, these comments, these people, are they real? Do people still think the American Dream is a thing? You already lost me and so many more. I know a lot of you will say you don't care because I am a Mexican and I should be "fixing my own country instead of caring about yours" as I constantly get told by MAGAs. Thing is, if I want to help and save my country, I have to look at you, the biggest root of all. The biggest terrorist group in the entire world: The 'United' States of America.
After suffering so much, I'd prefer to live in China than the USA, I don't care about the censorship and authoritarian nonsense. It is what you people need because you are way too unruly, too messy, too chaotic. Over 20% of teachers in the USA have quit their job the past few years because these new generations of children are making them quit. I could go on and on about how horrible the USA is, it's super easy to be honest, it's tiringsome too. So, whenever I see posts like this one and comments glazing the American Army or even the government as a whole, I can't help but cringe so hard. I can't believe this is still a thing anymore. Wake up, it's over. America is nothing but a joke, a bad one. Stop coping, bro. I used to hate China so hard, but now, after I saw Trump win AGAIN, I completely gave up on you, all of you, every single one, because you lied to me through my entire life. I remember TV channels talking about China negatively only, showing the smog they had in 2010, the contamination and all that. I keep getting shown videos of Chinese people ignoring someone who got into an accident. I keep getting told that China sucks, that everyone there is living bad and unhappy. And now I see this post, trying to tell me that the government sucks so bad, yet they are more effective at protecting and pleasing their people than the USA. Why? What the hell is the point of all this?
Americans are really not that different from us, Mexicans. I see you both as equals. The exact same thing. You behave and sound very alike. You also share the same level of intelligence and loyalty to your country. Please, get me out of here. There is no money or no job that fits my skills of 3D modeling, creating gaming AIs like GOAP, Utility, FSM... I try so hard to create an indie game, just like I wrote books and had a shot at so many ideas to make money, I went to the ITESM which is the Harvard of Latin America, a lot of rich Americans go there themselves, I got there with a scholarship of 80%, I was very lucky and unlucky at the same time, because even though I graduated as a Software Engineer, I am still surrounded by a severe lack of opportunities, stability and people who rather see my little brother who has Down Syndrome dead. It's not worth working for you, to be honest. Posts like these only inspire me to seek support with my local Mexican cartels, because they are the only ones offering me a chance to enjoy my wasted youth. All my 20s wasted in mediocrity and dullness, because money is not moving, money is being used to fund wars and bomb children in Gaza. Some sources I saw here in Lemmy said we only need 93 billion USD a year to solve World Hunger, yet you spent over 20 trillion USD in the military over the past decade. That is about 10% of the budget to solve World Hunger over the same decade. You paid all that with your taxes, and you feed that machine by not doing anything about it at all. I only have respect for Luigi Mangione, and to me, there is no such thing as an "innocent" person in this world anymore. Not even a newborn. It is thanks to posts like these, people with mindsets like that, that I keep getting pushed to believe that the only way to make people understand and never forget that greed should be stopped as soon as possible, is by living through the worst yourselves. That's the difference between sympathy and empathy. Sympathetic people ONLY care when the bad thing like losing a child or whatever happens to them FIRST. Empathetic people, on the other hand, can imagine that pain without having lived that experience yet. This is why empathetic people are worth more than sympathetic ones. There should also be a cap on wealth, 10 million USD is a lot, but is a good start. That is literally almost 200 million MXN pesos. With that amount you can build 3 or 4 schools with your name on it. Wanna build a mall or something bigger? Be a human and work with people that think like you. Nobody should rely on a few billionaires, etc.
Are you seriously trying to argue who is worse? I am pretty sure that US is way worse but China definitely sucks.
If do find you last comment enlightened. Yes we are not that much different. In fact China pumped out more billionaires than the US this year. Just two imperialist fascist countries sitting in a tree.
Yes dude, I am. The world would be a much better place if the USA was replaced with China and I am goddamn tired of pretending it "wouldn't." I am on the verge of death thanks to people like you and you're still trying to convince me that the country that loses more than 22,000+ people a year to violence, not natural causes, is better than the country with 4x times the population size, yet a quarter of that death toll a year compared to the USA, the supposedly and self-called "#1 country in the world."
Do not even try to equate them, dude. You sound exactly like the people that say "Kamala Harris would've been the exact same as Trump." Literally.
I don't like facism whether it is the US or China. I hate dictatorships. I hate for life presidents. I hate one party governments. I hate having to trust in the idea of a benevolent dictatorship. I want a government that fears the people and leaderships can be easily replaced as opposed to becoming centralized under one person because fuck kings.
You will never get that. Just look at all the people replying and downvoting me. They are fucking scared of even listening to me praising violence and shitting on the US heavily. It angers them so much, it pisses them off. You will not be alive to see any of this, because you are surrounded by this.
We can totally agree to disagree but the way the current Chinese government came to power was very brutal. We are talking 2 to 40 million dead depending how you calculate the loss of life.
No country is perfect and China is far from one.
I find it strange you would attribute the rise of China to their internal policies as opposed to the reality of them taking advantage of US and other foreign investments. China is great because of the US not despite it.
You sound like someone who is a pick me for China. This often happens when westerners get disillusioned with the US. Which I think is easy to do. They will look into some other country to latch onto.
For instance, I am guilty of looking up to some Western European countries policies and idealizing them. I was once also very enamored with socialism. I still am in a lot of ways.
"China is great because of the US" lmao. "We are talking 2 to 40 million dead" what an insane gap. "them taking advantage of US and other foreign investments" oh my god, you are a MAGA, dude, these are Trump's talking points ever since his first term.
Yeah, Lemmy is getting filled with bots to keep further dividing people with nonsense like this. Goodluck
Hey, I get it. You don't have answers and that is okay. Nationalism is always a symptom of a deeper problem and also relies on hiding the truth.
I told you the US was way worse than China. That makes me MAGA?
I think you are just confused and frustrated and really don't know what the fuck you are saying at this point. I encourage you to continue examining your opinions. Cheers!
I already have an answer, and that is to fill the US with fentanyl. I am not a nationalist either, I don't want the world to be like China, I want to see lesbians and gay people kiss in my movies and TV shows, but the US is still worse than China by a lot, and the US deserves nothing but pain.
I even mentioned putting a cap on wealth of 10M, I also believe politicians should be live-streamed 24/7, I don't give a fuck if they want privacy in their bathrooms or bedrooms, people deserve to know what they are doing and talking about at all times, make it hard for them to be corrupt, to hide things from them, to accept bribes or whatever.
If you think those two propositions are irrational or exaggerated, then you deserve all this pain. You don't want to help people, but the rich.
Yeah, I totally get the American hate. When it comes to history and even current government policy it is well deserved.
I also agree that stringent wealth caps must be policy. This is not even controversial at this point. In the US we tried trickle down. It has been a dramatic failure.
I don't think you are irrational at all. I think you may not be seeing the bigger picture and lashing out against things that are not really the problem.
The people doing nothing because they are afraid of cameras, of being processed like Luigi Mangione, of landing justice on an evil person asap, to me, they are problems. Lashing out at them is not wrong anymore. It is the only way to push them to act, when shit gets too close to their home. That's what is happening to me. I still hear gunshots outside my house from time to time, get to see TV news that literally blast us with gore scenes of people getting killed by the cartels, while they are dining out, someone walks behind them and puts a bullet in their head and that's it. That easy. My Spanish teacher from 2nd grade in Middle School, I got to see her dead with bullets in her body, next to her son, in their car, in the newspaper when I was a 16 year old.
As I explained. Empathetic people are the only ones that are worth fighting for. Sympathetic people need to be pushed so they fucking do something already. And like more than half of the world are more sympathetic than empathetic, specially in America, where they never had to see shit this close to home. School shootings weren't even enough for them to do something about gun control, kids are still dying to this day to that. Lazy or scared, or whether your excuse is that you don't have too much power to do anything, yes you do, at least do the bare minimum of belitting, mocking, insulting your family members and friends who turned MAGA, who still LOVE the government or the country, who still talk shit about other countries. Socially osctracize those people and let them know what massives pieces of shit they are and that they deserve to leave actual human beings alone.