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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

honest query: conservatives hate popular vote / ranked choice / anything that cleans up the absurdities of the electoral college. how the fuck do we pass something like that with half the states fighting everything?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

So it doesn't take half the states to pass it. It only takes enough states to make up half of the electoral votes. It could actually be done with as few as 12 states if those with the most electoral votes all agreed (though that requires Texas and Florida to join the compact). But even now, there are only 17 states and DC officially joined in the compact, yet that already makes up almost 39% of electoral votes. They will need some red or purple states to join too, to reach the number of course. There's not enough electoral votes in all the solid blue states alone. Purple state Pennsylvania, and red states Kansas and South Carolina all have bills in committee to join. Were they all to pass, they'd have 45% of the electoral college in the compact.

It's to the benefit of hard red states too though. It will make their needs more of a priority for campaigning presidents instead of only Swing States being pandered to. The Swing states are the only ones that have a vested interest in preserving the status quo. And it's not like Trump wouldnt be president now if the compact was triggered now (unfortunately) so it's silly to pretend that it would prevent conservative presidencies.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

It doesn't take half the states, just half the states worth of electoral votes - and yeah, getting texas and florida... not likely. it's an awesome idea, but the hurdles are real.

It’s to the benefit of hard red states too though.

they've never really voted to their own benefits if they conflict with the gop's mission. see: everything