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[โ€“] Sepia@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ukraine was facing a population decline already before 2022, and the war made the situation worse. But Ukraine is by far not alone with the problem of a shrinking population as almost the entire world will face it in the next decades. Only a few countries in Central Asia and Africa are exempted. The decline is especially pronounced in China, where the population will decline by a factor of 2.2 in this century reaching ~600 million, down form the current 1.4 billion) as well as in the U.S., and Russia, where fertility rates have fallen below the population replacement level.

[โ€“] Melchior@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

China does not have the problem of a massive war killing a lot of people and creating a massive refugee wave. Ukraine is down to 36million people from 42million in 2022. That is like China loosing 200million people over three years. The natural decline to 600million is the UN estimate for the end of the decade so an annual decline of about 10million.

The only country with somewhat similar issues is Russia, but they do not have as big of a refugee crisis.

[โ€“] shane@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like China is probably better equiped to make necessary changes to deal with decreasing population better than most other countries.

[โ€“] Sepia@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Dictatorships dont have the checks and balances. That is just a fact

[โ€“] Sepia@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dictatorships dont have the checks and balances. That is just a fact

And? The trend of a society that gets older and older can't be reversed by dictatorial order. The issue of a countrywide worker shortage can't be cracked down. A lack of resources to pay reasonable pensions is a problem you can't shoot at.

You asked why china might be better equipped. I amswered it.

I dont think they can handle this one any better, maybe even worse, than other nations.

[โ€“] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

Which is why they are always less stable than democracies.

[โ€“] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Dictatorships can just tell people not to die and plant new kids

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No. But they dont have a lenghty process to make laws and regulations

[โ€“] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I don't have a lengthy process to deal with nazis and you really sound like one.

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 minutes ago

What makes you say that? Because i said the obviouse that dictatorships have a lot of power concentrated in one person, therefore the dictator can do as they pleases?