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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The group repeat the same exact Israeli state and government lies and propaganda so they are 100% pro Israel group. Denying that is like denying that 1 +1 = 2

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they are pro-Israel. They are also an american grift that's very profitable.

I feel like you're saying 2 is an even number, and I'm saying it's also literally 2. Specificity has value, and I think there should be a good reason to be vague instead of specific.

I will ask again: why is my argument for changing the title stronger if stopantisemetism were anti-Israel?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Explain how it is not a good title to use the designation of Pro Israel group in the title when the group has the exact same propaganda as the Israeli government

[–] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

You are talking past this person's point for some reason. They're just saying you should use "Pro Israel group, StopAntisemitism,..." and they're not wrong? Why in the world are you so dead set on being clear in the title who exactly this scumbag organization is??

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I am not interested in telling you that you have done bad. I am interested in telling you that you could do better. I think this change is an improvement because:

I think there is an opportunity to make a more specific point, that requires no analogy, is shorter and more precise, still works towards your political priorities (assuming you do want Israel shamed for this kind of behavior), and (I think) has a better chance of making specific, incremental, progress in political discourse.