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The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What about the stolen ukrainian children, was that a de-escalation tactic as well? Face it, theses russians are some of the worst neighbors europe could have, and I'm not even gonna mention the cyber warfare, the arsons, the shooting down of civilian airplanes, that journalist body returned with her fucking eyes scooped out.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about the stolen ukrainian children

It's mostly magnified out of reality. The source for the vast majority of "stolen Ukrainian children" numbers (supposedly hovering around the tens of thousands according to western media) is a Ukrainian ministry. You don't believe Ukraine has any reasons to exaggerate the numbers in atrocities for international image purposes? When the numbers are roughly confirmed by independent journalistic work, I'll take the claims as they are, but until then I'll be cautious and not take Ukrainian government propaganda at face value, the same way that I don't take Russian government propaganda at face value when they talk of genocide of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine pre-2022.

theses russians are some of the worst neighbors europe could have

Russians could say the same about Europe contributing to genocide in Palestine, to the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia. Or those don't count somehow? Do you really think Europe has any moral high ground to stand on seeing its current support to the Netanyahu genocidal regime?

Cyber warfare is universal, and CIA actually dominates simply by the fact that most social media are owned by US companies. If you don't think Twitter being owned by Elon Musk counts as western Cyberwarfare you're plainly wrong. Chinese cyberwarfare through TikTok arguably is the biggest contributor to awareness of the Palestinian genocide in the west. As for the rest of comments, they're isolated minor incidents during wartime, I could be talking shit about Poland keeping a Spanish journalist prisoner for years without evidence because he has Russian ancestors, but I don't bring these things up because all states do dirty shit.

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All states do dirty shit, yet its not your job to defend the dirtiest of them all. Unless complied to, like a russian would be.

How is rhe invasion of Ukraine any worse than the indiscriminate blanket bombings of Korea and Vietnam, the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, or the support of genocide in Palestine? Seriously, by which metric is Russia the dirtiest? I hate the Russian far right nationalist government as much as any other, I'm a communist, but why is it "the dirtiest"?