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President Trump ripped Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as “seriously retarded” -- and suggested Rep. Ilhan Omar "probably came into the USA illegally" --  in a rage-filled Thanksgiving message about immigration.

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because he's peak american.you may not like it, but he's the embodiment of what the world thinks when they hear america.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm old enough to remember the America of best education, top science and engineering in the world. The America that proudly went to the Moon. The America that developed the Internet on public money.

I guess I can feel the contrast with the idiocracy of today a bit more keenly than younger folks who have never known anything else.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I am honestly sad that I never got to experience that America. My perspective of being a mid 20s American is that of a longing for the America that was all the things you listed. Not a kleptocratic oligarchy held up by social media misinformation and straight idiocy. Ever since the mid 70s: following all the debt caused by the Vietnam War, the disastrous consequences of Reaganomics, and deregulation of finance; income inequality has gotten to a point of insanity.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I am honestly sad that I never got to experience that America

I'm so sorry. But it was like that. Sure it had its many, many flaws. But it was a place where studying hard, making it to and through college and being educated were valued more highly than being a vocal cretin, where science was respected, craziness was fringe, religion was retreating, working hard gave you a real - albeit small - chance at striking it rich, and where you could expect your children to be better off than you if you did everything right.

All that is gone. I really feel sorry for you and those of your generation who never got to experience the "good" America - at least good if you were white...

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I am just jealous of how many older folks got their college education for free or just hundreds of dollars 50+ years ago…

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes, we gen-Xers got a lot of things for cheap or free, and we had a lot more opportunities for sure - and our boomer parents even more so - because we rode the tail end of the post-WW2 economic boom.

I totally get the jealousy. What I don't get is the hate: I can't count the number of young people who actually hate me because I happen to have had it better than them. Sorry... It's not like I planned it or anything, and I didn't set out to ruin anybody's life after me neither.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I'll have you know tuition was about $1500 to $1800 per year when I was university. I maxed out my loans and I had to pay $105/month for 10 years to pay back that $10k.ny interest rate was something like 9%.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 4 points 19 hours ago

Which I always assumed was a hyperbolic stereotype based on things like the “Florida man” phenomenon.

Turns out it is a reality based description.