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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What's the alternative? They have to obey the law, right? What should they have done? How is this "bowing to Kremlin" as if they're kneeling, waiting to suck their dick or something.

Genuinely curious about these questions.

[–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

The alternative is to stop doing business with Russia.

They can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.

They chose the problem.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The alternative is to stop doing business in places where laws are being used to restrict the games available.

Don't get me wrong, fuck the russian government and the horse they rode in on, but unless you have a defend-able reason that russia should be singled out in this context your argument is emotional rhetoric and little else.

You could perhaps narrow that down to a subset of applicable laws, but i'd lay good money that any group/type of laws you pick are not go only contain russia and still be able to be considered a reasonable argument.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How is valve doing business with Russia? Are they selling games to the government? Games are for the public, right? The public isn't at war, Putin is.

Let me know if this is a bad take, what am I missing.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'd assume the argument is the same kind of one made for sanctions, you restrict the interaction with the country to indicate you are displeased with some action(s) that government has taken.

It's not a good argument , mind you.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Okay, yeah, I see what you mean.

Yeah, I dunno, I think I don't feel like it's the most effective way to fight the war machine, to restrict non-enlisted from playing games lol. They are giving money to Valve anyway. Not being able to buy games wouldn't affect someone negatively, I feel. If anything it might make them richer and more productive. 😅

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't see how it advances any objective like Ukraine or identity politics issue by Valve not being in Russia. On the contrary, the more people buy from valve puts currency strain on Russia and exports western culture to them.