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It’s not racism with more steps. You don’t even know it has not been enforced improperly. It’s a lot easier to enforce enforcement than it is to stop people ruining the world
Praying doesn't ruin the world. Just like having a party, or a poetry slam, or Shakespeare in the park.
It's behaviors that cause health or safety issues that are the problem.
Praying in PUBLIC is like having sex in public. Don’t.
So someone praying before a meal is an equivalent obscenity?
So, you and I both know that public praying isn’t just people being in public standing around praying without anyone knowing they’re praying.
If a person went to a restaurant and started vocally praising Satan for this meal for an hour prior to eating it… yeah I bet they would make a lot of people uncomfortable. Not to mention the restaurant would refuse them service.
What you want to do is justify bothering people in public spaces with your beliefs. If you can stand around in public thinking about your god without letting anyone else know you’re doing it, then no one would be uncomfortable.
Then that's not prayer, it's being a public nuisance, a disturber of the peace. That's a different crime / tort that I'm sure is already on the books.
The prayer part is irrelevant.
There's a precedent like this in the US: enhancement laws
They ruin lives, and don't stop crime.
So what is an example of something you think this topic is referring to? It’s not referring to a family doing a quick prayer before a public meal.
It sounds like a bunch of flimsy bullshit in order to legally oppress practicing religious freedoms.
You should always question why law enforcement gets extra work.
So, you’re not able to answer my question or you’re refusing to?
I don’t disagree that giving law enforcement more work should be questioned, but… religious people are the cause of… most of the world’s problems. So I don’t have a ton of empathy. Keep it in your church.
Why should I have to answer your question? What makes you so special that I'm required to do indulge in your navel gazing?
Making the practice of prayer illegal in any form is asinine and an overstepping of personal freedoms.
If you can't understand that, start looking at every fascist entity of the past, and realize you're on the wrong side.
I disagree. Sorry. Religious people are just… the cause of most problems in the world.
It sounds like your idea of “fascism” is Socialism without Religion… sign me up.
People using religion to oppress and usurp others, yes.
People just having a personal relationship with whatever they believe in? No.
Often, what one would see as a crime or nuisance while observing "religious practices" is simply another already codified behavior. Also, meditation could be constructed as prayer under the vagueness of these kinds of laws.
No one is saying that a person cannot be religious. They are saying that they cannot pray on the side of the street. It’s cold on the side of the street, you have a dedicated place for this. I imagine that it has comfortable seats, made of solid gold, and people that you know. Go there, get the fuck out of my face with your fucking bigotry and hate.
Religion had its time, and it failed. Get back in the fucking closet.
Sorry, can you expand on the ways prayer is like sex? Are people praying with their dicks out in your vicinity?
It's personal and private and children shouldn't be exposed to it. It's not wrong, and you can do it, but keep it away from me and mine.
Have you considered being less nosy? Minding your business?
I'm no lover of religion but I love this culture policing even less.
If you aren’t able to see how a comparison between two things does not create a combination of those two things, then you aren’t intelligent enough to converse in a polite manor. I’ve provided more details in my other comments, you can read those without interacting with me.
*manner
STT
What a weirdo comparison to make.
Only we do know exactly the results of the CAQ's "laïcité" laws:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/bill-21-impact-religious-minorities-survey-1.6541241
Bury your head in the sand all you like but the systemic racism that is embedded in the social outcomes of these laws is undeniable and palpable.