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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sorry but it is naive to think that misinformed voters will learn the right lesson and vote blue no matter who.

I never said I thought they would. I said its the closest to possible way out.

Nothing is is remotely plausible.

It is more practical to ask for better candidates.

No it is not, because the people you are asking do not care about you.

I think many people in the lemmyverse struggle to deal with what they feel like are conflicting ideas, where they feel like they can't acknowledge that their relationship with the DNC is adversarial, while also acknowledging that the Democrats are the only party of the 2 parties in a system that only supports 2 major parties that can be leveraged to pull the country towards their objectives.

Better candidates have to be voted in over time, and just as I said, you have to slowly shift the party through primaries and local and state politics.

This requires a multifaceted approach. The DNC will not magically wake up tomorrow and hear your pleas. They will not suddenly support your sweetheart candidate.

They understand and largely like the flipping back and forth so that they can please their donors by allowing the country to continue drifting right, while appeasing to voters by offering to undo some of the harm caused by the republicans during the flip flopping.

Asking them won't work, because it fundamentally misunderstands their incentives and goals as an organization steering the Democratic party.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 9 hours ago

I guess when I say "ask" I mean we run better candidates instead of going with whatever the Democrats decide for us. Expecting people to show up and vote for what they have dished out in the past isn't working. As you said, we will need a multifaceted approach .