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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 75 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

Note plenty FitGirl repacks are lossless; as in, she isn't taking less important files out of the game, she's compressing it better. 90GB→35GB seems accurate; you often see ~1/3 of the original size, like this. And it shows plenty game devs

  1. do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression.
  2. give no flying fucks about players, who might have really slow connections.

And then those same developers get amazed at the fact FitGirl is so popular. "Maybe we're doing something wrong? ...nah."

[–] omarfw@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's more likely that the devs are not being given the time or resources to do this kind of thing properly. Their bosses are too concerned with what will save money and generate shareholder value.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 19 points 7 hours ago

Fair point. I guess it would be more accurate to say "development studios" (you know, the organisation... including the bloody boss) instead of "game devs".

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This implies fitgirl is doing it properly. Which it's trade off faster download longer install times or vice versa.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 46 minutes ago

Decompression during install is generally less of a bottleneck than network bandwidth, so fitgirl is doing it properly.

[–] fiestorra@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't really say that. The kind of extreme compression Fitgirl does comes with the tradeoff of really long decompression times. Depending on which games, nearly 45 minutes (with a 7800x3D)

Some games lack compression but I would not want those long install times by default, if you have a speedy internet connection they usually take longer to install than to download. Don't get me wrong, for people with really slow internet those repacks are a godsend but they are not "better" on every aspect.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Steam gets around this problem by doing the decompressing on the fly as you download. Go check out your CPU usage next time you install a game.

Edit: I think this is also why it defaults to not downloading while you game. Steam doesn't want you to have a bad experience from the decompression.

[–] Timbits@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

More like check your hdd. Steam goes like this for me download, download, download, pause downloading to extract and smash my hdd, download, download, downloand.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I think it ends up waiting for slower storage if your cpu or HDD are too slow. I experience that with slower sdcards on the Deck.

But on a decent NVMe with a balanced CPU the download and disk are full bore and the CPU usage goes really high.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ahh yeah this could be. My system isn't by any means crazy but it is modern. A tuned 5600x (draws about 115W at full load) and an nvme 3.0 ssd. I'm being bottlenecked by internet bandwidth at the moment.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Is this why steam is so insanely slow to download games.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

It can be, spinning iron has pretty bad throughput.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 hours ago

Could be a variety of things but yes. It also depends on the game and how compressible it's assets are.

[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Honestly I can't remember the last time a fitgirl release took longer to install than an 'official' copy.

And pretty much as long as I've had a computer it's been "bottom of the barrel" hardware.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The thing about compression is you have to process it to decompress it. It may be benificial to people with limited bandwidth, or for peer-to-peer sharing, but it's probably better for most users for someone like Valve to share the uncompressed version. Bandwidth isn't the issue it used to be.

It also makes progressive updates harder. The best you can do is compress each update individually, not the whole package.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

No it's making a choice. Faster decompress times. Considering a lot of their customers have fast speeds it doesn't really matter.