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Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.

The vote coincided with the international day for the elimination of violence against women, a day designated by the U.N. General Assembly.

The law won bipartisan support from the center-right majority and the center-left opposition in the final vote in the Lower Chamber, passing with 237 votes in favor.

The law, backed by the conservative government of Premier Giorgia Meloni, comes in response to a series of killings and other violence targeting women in Italy. It includes stronger measures against gender-based crimes including stalking and revenge porn.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Your offer of a better solution is to charge the act of killing someone because of who they are or what they believe should be a hate crime.

If more men commit hate crimes against women than women committing hate crimes against men, then there will be more men charged with hate crimes than women.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Your offer of a better solution

I am not offering anything, I am explaining the reasoning for this law and laws like it, which a lot of people in this post seem to be having a hard time with.

is to charge the act of killing someone because of who they are or what they believe should be a hate crime.

I read this like, five times and and I don't know what you're saying.

If more men commit hate crimes against women than women committing hate crimes against men, then there will be more men charged with hate crimes than women.

And? This is indeed how cause and effect work. Unfortunately temporal anomalies haven't been discovered that can change how things lead to other things.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

My point was that anyone who harms someone else based on who they are or what they believe (so long as those beliefs aren't hurting others) should be charged with a hate crime.

The legal system isn't a zero sum game. There's no reason to treat the crimes differently.

Plus, if you want to talk about disparities in the legal system, woman already, on average, get less time than men for the same crimes.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Plus, if you want to talk about disparities in the legal system, woman already, on average, get less time than men for the same crimes.

I am sure you don't even see how unhinged and revealing this line is on a topic like this.

But I hope you figure out why you're so miserable feeling that laws attempting to help people suffering imbalanced levels of violence make you have to play this game. I highly recommend learning the emotion/rumination cycle and how it impacts your health. You and a lot of lonely guys in this godforsaken post. I feel bad for women and men alike every time I subject myself to a moronic conversation like this.

My days of talking it out with incel-adjacent, self-insecure men who haven't learned how to stop ruminating are kind of past me. I've done my time, I've helped my share of young dipshits become men who don't feel insecure and persecuted knowing there are special considerations being made for anyone who isn't them. I hope you meet someone and feel better about yourself.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You're making some wildly baseless assumptions about me, buddy.

I'm not the one saying that men being killed for their gender is a less serious crime than it happening to a woman.

Also, you're literally advocating for women to be sentenced less harshly for the exact same crime.

There's certainly a sexist here, but it's definitely not me. You don't combat inequality with more inequality.