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Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.

The vote coincided with the international day for the elimination of violence against women, a day designated by the U.N. General Assembly.

The law won bipartisan support from the center-right majority and the center-left opposition in the final vote in the Lower Chamber, passing with 237 votes in favor.

The law, backed by the conservative government of Premier Giorgia Meloni, comes in response to a series of killings and other violence targeting women in Italy. It includes stronger measures against gender-based crimes including stalking and revenge porn.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see how the femicide part makes any sense or difference. There were already the exact same punishments for killing of anyone, so isn't this essentially copy pasting existing laws but with a specific group highlight? If that's the case, it will do absolutely nothing.

The second part is fine, though I hope it's meant for everyone and not just women. I don't know about Italy specifically, but in many European countries if you fall victim to these crimes as a man, you'll likely receive no help.

Would be great to see some more protections for everyone, as well as more serious punishments for violations against anyone. Making anything like this gender-specific will just fuel already problematic anti-other-gender sentiment.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

inequity is real.

If each and every person should matter then It should be ok to recognize each and every person for what they are being targetted for. And I see this law as doing just that. It’s recognizing that a person may not be targetted for being an individual but a part of a group. And that is important. So That is taking their individualness into importance by recognizing the group they are being targetted by.

This should be allowed if you’re being legitimately concerned for EVERYONE’S safety here.

people who may be at their job as a sex worker. Or if they are simply female and that in itself could be weaponized against them.

They will face a violent discrimination just as another person fitting into a different group might. And it’s important to recognize that, make that a law, and keep them safe too. So if “Being targetted for”is a law , recognizing group profile is part of that.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you aim for equality, making separate laws for separate genders is not the solution. This is anything but equality. Especially when there are already laws protecting the groups in question, as part of the entire nation. The problem here is completely different and requires different solutions.

[–] nysqin@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

To note: I'm not who you responded to.

making separate laws for separate genders is not the solution

Absolutely it is. If there is a measurable inequality towards a minority, you should enshrine the protection of that minority into law - which is one reasons why many countries specify anti-discrimination laws. This law regards the same.

The problem here is completely different

Which you have failed to specify. So... the problem is what, exactly? I don't see one.

and requires different solutions.

Which you also failed to provide.

I'm getting a strong "but won't anyone think of the men!" vibe from you.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago
  1. Women are not a minority.
  2. Anti-discrimation laws generally apply to everyone. Otherwise they'd themselves be discriminatory.
  3. Not specifying problems/solutions, since it's quite a sensitive and complex topic. It's way easier to rate an existing proposition than to come up with an alternative. Though obviously, a good start would be to respect and enforce laws that are already in place. E.g., all EU countries already have laws prohibiting all kinds of sexual harassment and assault. However, many cases are still ignored for a variety of reasons. In this specific instance, adding more laws would accomplish nothing.
  4. I know this isn't literally what you meant, but I am in fact trying to think of the men, as well as women. When striving for equality, you want to consider all of the groups in question and not just one or two out of many. Feminism used to be about equal rights between men and women, but nowadays it's usually about more rights for women and fewer for men. While it's not actually feminism, it does present itself as such and many people consider it to be, so it's still relevant to the discussion. This may 'work' for a short while, but long-term will do nothing but pin men and women against each other. As designed, since it's in most politicians' best interests to keep us divided. This is not the way.
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I think a better law would be more generic in defining what defined group targeting.

Why only protect one group? How many other divisions will there be?

How balkanized will you make the law when ypu apply it to people?

Will more wealth entitle you to more protections?

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

If each and every person should matter then It should be ok to recognize each and every person for what they are being targetted for. And I see this law as doing just that.

Please note that, by all accounts I've seen, Italy's femicide law does not cover any similar offense against men. It's an elevated offense to try and reduce the disproportionate number of Italian women who are killed by intimate partners.