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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

It's mostly thanks to the worst real world attempts to create socialism in the 1900s, which ended up being not terribly different from plain fascism. In core USSR cities things were probably kind of fine for most people, but the farther away you got from the large cities and the motherland, the worse it got. Ukraine had a man-made famine that killed 3-10 million people. China has similar horrible hunger waves due to human mistakes or malevolence in planning. Gulag Archipleago, Stasi, KGB. When people attempted to free themselves from communism, the attempts were brutally crushed. Oppression was everywhere.

If you want to meet people who hate socialism most, go to places that used to be socialist. Sure, USA had some counter-propaganda against communism, but it 100% is not the only reason why people don't like it.

Just because it has failed miserably in the past might not mean that it must fail in the future too if somebody is ~~dumb~~brave enough to try again. But there are some important differences between now and then and those differences might be important if put to good use. For instance, we have significant computer capacity today that didn't exist back when communism was really tried the last time. Perhaps those difficult allocation problems can be worked out. Perhaps. Perhaps AI can be an impartial divider of resources. Just let me build the model, I'll make it fair, I promise.

I wonder how Lemmy would explain the apparently much more blatant hatred towards free market capitalism though.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

A sizable portion of Lemmy's userbase is in a country that aggrandizes free-market capitalism, and we're getting to the point with it where its flaws are becoming impossible to ignore. Meanwhile, most of us grew up well after the peak of anti-socialist sentiment.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 32 minutes ago

i’d say that fascism is one form of dictatorship, whereas Marxism requires a transition phase of a temporary dictatorship of the proletariat… which then becomes permanent because temporary dictators don’t tend to just quit being dictators.
they’re usually fascist in the way they hunt and exterminate any western educated people and such… but then it just goes to brutal authoritarian dictatorships…
yeah i guess not terribly different.