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Despite decades of evidence on the toxic effects of lead battery recycling, companies opted not to act and blocked efforts to clean up the industry.

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Lithium and lead are drastically different elements.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (7 children)

This is the same shit people use to lambast vaping based of the effects of inhaling burnt plant matter.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (6 children)

No one is doing that. Dihydroacetone released from heated vape juice is just as carcinogenic as tobacco compounds. Huffing any chemical in high concentration is stupid.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11347775/

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“Just as carcinogenic” is not demonstrated by that study.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Also "inhaling any chemicals is stupid" shows their level of knowledge considering the air we breath is a chemical.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

please fuck off you know what I mean. sucking on mystery chinese chemicals is stupid.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Oh they're "mystery chemicals" now? I thought you posted a study referencing a specific chemical.

This exactly highlights my previous point about conflating cigarettes with vaping. Now youre arguing "we dont even know what's in them so they're definitely harmful because look at how harmful this completely separate product is!" We're supposed to just take your argument on faith despite your inability to even use the proper terminology all because this other inhaled product with completely separate chemicals and chemical reactions is bad for you.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"we confirmed the mutagenesis observed using the supF reporter plasmid. DHA increased the mutation frequency, consistent with methylmethane sulfonate, a mutagen and clastogen. These data demonstrate DHA is a clastogen, inducing cell-specific genotoxicity and chromosomal instability. "

I know, big words.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Yes, carcinogenic. Not “just as” carcinogenic.

I am a biochemist. These are not big words to me. I actually read the findings section, not only the abstract.

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