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[–] ghostsinthephotograph@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Or electing your own leaders who are willing to stand up to him on a global stage. Half the country did not elect him. There are protests, there are grassroots movements. What else do you recommend? Pretty easy to sit outside and call millions of people morons, including all those who agree with you. Pretty small-minded if you ask me.

[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I did not call Americans morons nor was my intention to tell you what to do to solve the problem. I simply told you why there isn't more help coming from the outside. It's not a matter of people deliberately sitting on their hands.

Unless American leadership breaks the International rules enough to get the sign on of multiple countries to work in concert against America in a world war you are on your own because of rules designed to allow countries to self govern. Other countries cannot alter another country's government for good or for ill. This is not an indictment of the voting habits or a rebuke of the process of citizen power the American public.

Whether you or any other country solve your problem democratically or through violent collapse the world is handcuffed. There are civil wars going on right now in other countries and the rules are the same for them as they are for you. The world will recognize whatever government is effectively in power once the dust settles but outsiders cannot lawfully tip the scale and go kingmaking unless one side of the conflict violates the rules of war. War itself is not internationally illegal. The US falling into a full on civil war is kosher from an international law standpoint.

The USA has a historic tendency to ignore that international legality and go kingmaking themselves utilizing the resource of spies and subterfuge ONLY because they are singularly powerful enough on the world stage to get away with it. America essentially declared itself a world police force and the sheer infrastructure they have worldwide means that no individual country can compete. Look for yourself how many bases America has on foreign soil compared to every other country. How many armaments and millitary force and how, their ethics policies of their intelligence agencies differ. America is singularly unique. It may be why you believe the rest of the world will help you "fix" things but that's not in the interests of the rest of the world.

Foriegn leaders are "standing up to America" but they are doing so by cutting themselves free of American coercion for the security and benefit of their own citizens. By framing America out of the picture and moving reliance to other countries and letting America starve itself once the supply chain contracts and treaties expire they will decrease American influence on world policy. It doesn't benifit those countries to try and swoop in and shore up a crumbling empire which has held guns to their heads for generations. International help currently isn't coming for American citizens. Unless your country fixes it's problems itself fairly soon the "standing up to America" that is happening will level your economy and diplomatic power as other governments profit from the diminishing of American hard power that will continue for decades.

Believing that someone is or should be coming to your rescue may not be in your best interest. Not when so many stand to gain long term from your division.

[–] asRomeBurns1979@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

‘Why don’t you stop us?’ After decades of the US using its financial might to tip the economic and political scales in its favour on basically every front. You’ve relentlessly stripped power from even your closest allies and now you’re whining about the results when they don’t work in your favour. Happy to pursue war and regime change in foreign countries or prop up genocidal lunatics, at the expense of civilian casualties. Just too cowardly to do it in your own country when the risk is yours. ‘Why don’t you stop us?’ You couldn’t write it. Unless you’re American.