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A survey published last week suggested 97% of respondents could not spot an AI-generated song. But there are some telltale signs - if you know where to look.

Here's a quick guide ...

  • No live performances or social media presence

  • 'A mashup of rock hits in a blender'

A song with a formulaic feel - sweet but without much substance or emotional weight - can be a sign of AI, says the musician and technology speaker, as well as vocals that feel breathless.

  • 'AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet'

"AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet... It knows patterns," he explains. "What makes music human is not just sound but the stories behind it."

  • Steps toward transparency

In January, the streaming platform Deezer launched an AI detection tool, followed this summer by a system which tags AI-generated music.

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[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 26 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I fell hard for Dysmn, who was suspiciously dropping new music every few days. I really liked the sound, and I haven't found anything that sounds like that since. 270+ videos in under 2 years. I realized it wasn't human after a month or two.

Soooo, if anybody knows a great jazzy EDM metal noise, let me know.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I looked that up, and it actually slaps. Not really my genre, but I can see how people would assume it’s real people.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Humans are primarily visual creatures, so we can detect the slop in AI images a LOT faster than we can in audio.

Human artists are going to have to get a lot weirder to out-innovate AI music, and I’m actually happy about that. Weird music is the best.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think this might be a way AI and humans can actually work together. A lot of musicians are creating digitally anyway. They might have to rely on drum loops if they aren’t good at beats. Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop, and still be a human making it.

However, I have reservations about the AI doing everything with little or no human involvement.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop

That’s just like, your opinion

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Right, pretty sure everyone but you knows it’s an opinion.

I think (think means opinion) most people, besides you, would agree that having a beat that is unique and not just downloaded from a loop library will produce a song that is more original.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

“In my imagination I speak for all people and we all think I’m right” chatGPT is literally rotting your brain bro

“The main issue musicians are struggling with is originality; AI can help :)” get a grip. Notice how in order for you to insert “ai” into this process you have to construct a fantasy where a totally uncreative person lazily drags a low quality beat into their project without a further care in the world? The root of your little fantasy here is simple and inescapable: AI is only appealing to boring, uncreative, soulless people. I know it, and you know it, which is why out of all the limitless possibilities your first argument is that it would be superior to something you already consider shit.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“I refuse to have a polite conversation” - you. It’s exactly what you said, because it’s in quotes and I know how to use quotes. Hah.

I disagree.

If a person plays guitar-but not piano, and they feed their track into an AI and ask it to generate a backup piano track with specific instructions about how it should sound, they should be… denied that?

What should they do if they want a track that involves an instrument they can’t play? Hire someone? With what money? lol.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Great job pretending not to know the concept of a summary! Also bonus points for conceding my points by ignoring them and moving on

As for this little game you and all slop pushers like to play where you try to come up with problems that don’t exist so AI can solve them: I can’t help but to notice the main character of your second attempt here doesn’t have any friends they can make music with.

The reason they have no musical friends is most likely because they keep getting ghosted after showing people their humiliating AI demos. It’s gonna be a recurring problem for them until someone is polite enough to tell them the truth to their face

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I see… You’re gatekeeping music. You assume that if a person picks up an instrument that they must want to be in a band. They must have a lot of friends who also play instruments. And they cannot be considered a serious musician unless they play in a group. I think Enya might have something to say about that.

I have the feeling that you feel the same way about all digitally created music, regardless of whether it involve artificial intelligence. You probably think programs like GarageBand have destroyed music. That a person with limited traditional musical skills could outshine you with what is basically a midi controller.

Tell me more about your failed music career.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Your delusions now extend to me! What an honor. Sadly, unlike with your AI girlfriend, you don’t have the ability to just tell me what I believe lmfao. Your brain is cooked

As for the point you’re trying to make: you cannot be considered a serious artist if you smear AI on the walls and then demand the same respect given to actual artists, no.

Digital artists who use “what is basically a midi controller” are actual artists, yes. Wtf are you talking about btw, it’s like you’ve heard of midi controllers but don’t know enough about them to phrase your point properly. Is your entire concept of digital production based on a guitar center advertisement? It would explain why you incorrectly believe AI could possibly assist the creative process.

And you’re the one shitting on digital artists, just so you know. Google how “Umbrella” was made before you so casually throw drum loops under the bus. Drum loops (and….this might blow your mind…piano loops) are collaborations between human artists. Everyone agrees this is legit. The fact you think instrumentalists and producers are somehow enemies reveals how out of touch you are; it’s totally obvious to anyone who actually creates music

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tell me more about your failed music career

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah you got nothing lmao. Good talk

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have everything. Nothing you said has changed my mind. Nothing you said has any rational thinking. No matter what point I make, you will say words of disagreement.

You’re just an old person yelling at clouds, or in this case: Computer programs that take inputs in different ways than you are familiar with and output things that are significantly better than you could ever do yourself.

So, tell me again about your failed music career lmao

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh noooo, not my career, how will it survive the onslaught of tech bros who publish thirty “songs” a day

You’re badly out of date buddy. It’s been hilarious watching slop slurpers humiliate themselves for years on and end then up crying when the obvious scam they invested in achieves nothing. There’s a reason all of your fantasies revolve around undisciplined, talentless losers who feel entitled to success without needing to work for it or collaborate with anybody else.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

lol you’re hallucinating.

Show me your amazing music

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Send me a picture of your girlfriend

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What, you not in the mood to dox yourself at my command today?

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just don’t want you to be jealous.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Does your husband know you just spent all night fantasizing about me?

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I know you spent all night pretending to be a musician.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you’re still going? Kinky. Develop the story a little more for me. What instrument do I play? Am I homeless?

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 hours ago

I can go until you die. You don’t play an instrument. You assemble shitty edm with other peoples loops and you call it a “collaboration”

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Strawman much?

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 12 hours ago

The artist is upfront that it is just one person making music, and they say it is AI assisted in their discord.

[–] BogusCabbage@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Can't say any legit bands that sound exactly like that, But some of the guitar and metal notes sounds inspired by Polyphia, Playing God (sorry for the yt link) might scratch your itch, otherwise look up the math rock genre, might find some gems there. Wish you the best of luck!

Gonna make a quick edit, Unprocessed 100% deserves a recommendation in this genre. Occasionally have some EDM but mainly more on the metal side, but still have some extraordinary strings akin to Polyphia

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 3 points 9 hours ago

I'm enjoying a lot of Unprocessed's Angel album. I'm also going to have to look at Polyphia and Playing God.

Math rock is one of the ways they advertised themselves. Also djent, but I'm not seeing that.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Check out a band called Unprocessed. I just found them after they did a collab with Polyphia's guitarist, another band to check out. It really sounds like this style.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 4 points 9 hours ago

You are the second person to recommend Unprocessed. Almost 10 minutes into the Angel album. It's pretty good, definitely hits the target.

I'll have to check out Polyphia as well.